From owner-freebsd-security Wed Dec 4 16:54:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-security Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.3/8.7.3) id QAA26300 for security-outgoing; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:54:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunrise.gv.ssi1.com (sunrise.gv.ssi1.com [146.252.44.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26294 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from salsa.gv.ssi1.com (salsa.gv.ssi1.com [146.252.44.194]) by sunrise.gv.ssi1.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA14693; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:54:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.ssi1.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA02606; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:54:03 -0800 (PST) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <199612050054.QAA02606@salsa.gv.ssi1.com> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:54:03 -0800 In-Reply-To: Nate Williams "Re: Sendmail 8.8.4 questions..." (Dec 4, 4:53pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(3) 7/19/95) To: Nate Williams , Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.8.4 questions... Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Sender: owner-security@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Dec 4, 4:53pm, Nate Williams wrote: } Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.8.4 questions... } > >I don't think so. Changes have been committed since 2.1.6, but not } > >since it was frozen. } > } > WRONG! Look at the ctm updates in the archive. They are triggered by SOME } > change in the CVS tree for the 2_1_0 tag. } } I didnt' see any that came after. I think you're confused. I just got a ctm update for -stable in the mail today. It looks like the first one since 2.1.6.1, which is only about a week and a half old. } > >2.1.* is dead in my mind, and I suspect many others. It lived long past } > >it's usefulness in the developers mind. I'll agree that it's dead as far as new development, but I'll have it running here for quite a while yet. I'd like to see security patches released as needed. } > That is a "developer's" attitude. If we wish to really have FreeBSD used in } > commercial environments, we need to adopt more of a "user's" attitude. } } I did. I offered to integrate the "users's" patches, and none were } submitted. The users have yet to show they care. I submitted a few patches just before 2.1.6-RELEASE which were committed by Jordan and others. I also complained about a few broken things that others took the initiative to fix. PR bin/2067 is still open. It contains a patch that applies to all versions of FreeBSD. --- Truck