From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 26 09:05:31 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6774E5F9A for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQ16L2rWnz3DxH for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=r/RtvKZRSXbaZM+24Fp/hVYsaeAtv2O0tybaoSe6m8o=; b=CNfXW7YxE0+Zd2DH65osmF0erZ brluDMYTvfmM830W/WxKJtCtR6bjGysE2DrsWFvzvYmJoEJxXOMK+N3Q+10E+KD0tS+TY/rmAXQ+N LFZCdDZrbWLQb+6yU72+FjxQG5ni4NlYBZ4WnnSoJRaWD7wDRYhsg1gv3lKd7FQPfxNo=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l4KHx-0002r6-87 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 16:05:29 +0700 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 16:05:29 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: References: <8e371d97-a723-92f9-a884-087cc240ff96@cedro.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7jC60BARyymmzU9x" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8e371d97-a723-92f9-a884-087cc240ff96@cedro.info> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQ16L2rWnz3DxH X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=CNfXW7Yx; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from:127.0.2.255]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:05:31 -0000 --7jC60BARyymmzU9x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tomasz CEDRO wrote: >=20 > I am not sure why these modules are not distributed with default kernel b= ut > this stuff is Linux KPI port so that may have something to do with GPL > tainting..? Also the full path needs to be specified to the drm modules > otherwise the default (those distrubuted with kernel that does not work w= ith > new cards)=20 It is noteworthy that my PC hardware (and the built in video) is older than= FreeBSD 12. > are loaded and those does not work (quite obvious isnt it). Brave > New World of Bleeding Edge Linux Style :-) :-) But really, if a KMS module is not good enough for my videocard or its driver, should it not warn somewhere in the logs or refuse to start, instead of crashing with signal 6 at random moments? Maybe it's the result of the policy that FreeBSD has no "official" GUI/DE which would be more thoroughly tested as a whole. The current approach looks like "if it compiles it is probably OK." --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --7jC60BARyymmzU9x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJgD9tZAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0IUAH/09Fg7xbeNsbjhYApwdBtYP2 eSctytmvzTf9KRAUwEfUR3uBO0B8R/ixtYPRhtmpC8Oi8smppiuKOEbd337ex7v8 74CQ8GWTzNFfGiGmQ/w7Vln6rUvXwexy0nmP2EJ23X1FE4DabokAC7GbSTizDsK1 Hs5YXuVKlKBFIdqSSR3gbU81Tp7HDnVCfLAYa9cGPtP8Q3KSeQGvPHjas+D6KA4S 90iIpd7K/nq3ZsFi5LDFgWE71nfqDBDkiSK7cFfYeOfvcrt9M96fWidha59yFQCX i0BMm2xI5UqDUEBcz5i60c3qdFb5VVJ5Lj1vgErRQoqtapmbhyNp5Ffns5uozSg= =BocN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7jC60BARyymmzU9x--