From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 19 15:19:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (femail3.rdc1.on.home.com [24.2.9.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5939D37B424 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 15:19:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msoulier@storm.ca) Received: from tigger ([24.114.252.76]) by femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010519221953.KZAY11682.femail3.rdc1.on.home.com@tigger> for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 15:19:53 -0700 Received: from msoulier by tigger with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 151F4y-0008DF-00 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 18:20:08 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 18:20:08 -0400 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: file completion Message-ID: <20010519182008.R21410@storm.ca> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010519171449.P21410@storm.ca> <20010519232145.A16105@student.uu.se> <20010519180703.Q21410@storm.ca> <20010520000947.B60427@rapier.smartspace.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iq/fWD14IMVFWBCD" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <20010520000947.B60427@rapier.smartspace.co.za>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:09:47AM +0200 X-Mailer: Mutt-1.3.17i (Debian/GNU Linux 2.2.4-i686) From: "Michael P. Soulier" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --iq/fWD14IMVFWBCD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:09:47AM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: >=20 > That centred around programming in it, not interactive use, iirc. Yeah, but I still can't accept the way environment variables, aliases a= nd shell redirection are handled in csh. We use it at work, and I hate it. I h= ave a hack to start bash, but I have to help others using csh all the time.=20 Something as simple as=20 find / -name "*.c" -print 2>/dev/null is very difficult to do in csh because it doesn't give you a separate 2 for stderr. It's great if you want to send stderr and stdout to the same pl= ace ala >& and |& but if you want to send them to different places, you have to do this annoying nonsense with parens.=20 Then there's the magickal set path and get PATH. I prefer explicit.=20 Just annoyances from someone who debugs csh problems a lot.=20 Mike --=20 Michael P. Soulier =20 "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessari= ly a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could= be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 --iq/fWD14IMVFWBCD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7BvGYKGqCc1vIvggRAikzAJ9W+HAtG9m2drrEIAsD/KgXKapM6QCaApsf JkKJoOdP38KprJOyanD2thk= =BZrb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iq/fWD14IMVFWBCD-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message