From owner-freebsd-current Thu Sep 14 5:29:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8816637B422; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 05:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=root) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13ZWeE-0006UB-00; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:53:42 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA92642; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:53:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:53:42 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Peter Pentchev , Julian Elischer , Chris Costello , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you! Message-ID: <20000914115342.I77593@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <20000914123945.A32524@ringwraith.office1.bg> <56076.968924938@critter> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <56076.968924938@critter> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > I must admit that I think in general that /dev/std{in,out,err} and /dev/fd > is bogus. It looks like something which happened "because we can" more > than something which has a legitimate need. You think adding a hack to every program to support "-" to mean stdout/stdin is better? It seems to be that saying "/dev/stdin" when you mean stdin is better than saying "-" and hoping the application handles that correctly. Of course many programs will read stdin by default, and write stdout by default, but that doesn't help when you want to read more than one file, one of which is stdin. > If anything I would propose we ditch it... And break loads of scripts at the same time? -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message