From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Dec 13 6:38:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (esplanaden.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6F937B420; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 06:38:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBDEak401157; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:36:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Brett Glass Cc: Terry Lambert , grog@FreeBSD.ORG, hitmaster2k@yahoo.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [OT] RMS Suing was [SUGGESTION] - JFS for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 13 Dec 2001 07:26:36 MST." <4.3.2.7.2.20011213072327.043556b0@localhost> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:36:46 +0100 Message-ID: <1155.1008254206@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <4.3.2.7.2.20011213072327.043556b0@localhost>, Brett Glass writes: >At 01:36 AM 12/13/2001, Terry Lambert wrote: > >>Brett: don't go of half cocked. Contamination is not an issue, since >>most FreeBSD won't ever let it be. You need to read the whole thread. > >I've read the thread, and I'm concerned. Already, FreeBSD simply >CANNOT BE BUILT and WILL NOT RUN IN THE DEFAULT INSTALL without >GPLed code. This means that it is already contaminated, and it >is truly sad that the project leadership has not made removing >this contamination a primary goal. Brett, I've been working on FreeBSD since the very beginning, yet I have a hard time judging your claim above as either true or false. I'm not having a hard time because I don't know enough about FreeBSD, our kernel, our build environment or our installation procedure, but because your claim is vague and incomplete. Your statement is comparable to the tabloid headline: "NASA cause of DEATH by launching SHUTTLE!" (The article talked about birds nesting stoopid places.) You will never sway the FreeBSD project with such creative headline writing. If you can't communicate any other way then please go away. I'm sure OpenBSD with their more strict attitude to GPL will find your "uncompromising" zealotism welcome. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message