From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 16 03:07:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56100106566B for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (cl-162.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4830:1200:a1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE5F8FC19 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m3G37sfF056998; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:07:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m3G37sGB056997; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:07:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:07:54 -0500 From: Brooks Davis To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20080416030753.GA56826@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <200804151709.03452.mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com> <200804152151.07444.mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com> <20080416022153.GA56554@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <200804152235.35820.mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UugvWAfsgieZRqgk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200804152235.35820.mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:07:54 -0500 (CDT) Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lzma (Re: HEADS UP: upgrading ImageMagick to 6.4.0-6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:07:47 -0000 --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:35:30PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > ???????? 15 ??????? 2008 10:21 ??, Brooks Davis ?? ????????: > > Sadly, the author's licensing terms will limit the adoption of lzma. > > The BSD license is well established as the most restrictive acceptable > > license for successful, widely adopted compression schemes. >=20 > Ever seen the inside of gzip.c (the original)? General Public License is= =20 > certainly more restrictive than BSD's and yet we (and just about everyone= =20 > else under the sun) had it in the tree until very recently, when a direct= =20 > client of libz was imported. The fact that a licensing compromsise was once made in the face of an extremely poor competitor (compress not only performs badly on text, it significantly expands files gzip and bzip are perfectly capable of compressing) is largely irrelevent. The reality is that the significant improvements provided by lzma will be relegated to a niche until an implementation under a BSD-like license is available. Even RMS acknoledges this effect http://lwn.net/2001/0301/a/rms-ov-license.php3 I wouldn't necessicairly be opposed to seeing support for tar.lzma files in bsd.port.mk, but I don't think lzma has a signficant future if the licensing policy remains as is (i.e. complex and not clearly defined in the source files). -- Brooks --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFIBW2JXY6L6fI4GtQRAtDtAJ9v0q7+k0pHoc9hocFcdn1YFDPcGACgwDZG LWJnQFgSmWIW3mmMOzw3wMs= =GrqR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk--