From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Feb 23 16:31:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DEE6113A5; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:31:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA20125; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:01:39 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA51753; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:01:37 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19990224110137.B93492@lemis.com> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:01:37 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Eivind Eklund , Christopher Masto Cc: chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Vinum license (was: GPL issues (Was: More important Windows Refund Day coverage)) References: <199902211924.OAA02025@y.dyson.net> <19990221180845.J93492@lemis.com> <199902211924.OAA02025@y.dyson.net> <19990222082525.A1429@ska.bsn> <4.1.19990221233032.03fffba0@mail.lariat.org> <19990222143416.A25682@netmonger.net> <19990223091605.D2606@bitbox.follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990223091605.D2606@bitbox.follo.net>; from Eivind Eklund on Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 09:16:06AM +0100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 23 February 1999 at 9:16:06 +0100, Eivind Eklund wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 02:34:16PM -0500, Christopher Masto wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 21, 1999 at 11:37:17PM -0700, Brett Glass wrote: >> bad. We can still get along. Every day I use FreeBSD it bothers me a >> little that things like softupdates and parts of vinum are not free >> software. Maybe one day I or someone else will write free > > Soft updates come under a license that is approximately as restrictive > as the GPL. No, I'd say it's more restrictive. > Vinum has parts restrictively licensed to pay for the development of > the other parts. The parts that haven't been freed yet will be freed > later (if I understood Greg Lehey correctly). Not quite. The parts are restrictively licensed to pay for the development of exactly those parts. The remainder of Vinum is still usable and offers more than ccd. I had the choice of developing the RAID-5 software for ccd and leaving it with Cybernet, or putting it in Vinum and getting it released on a Berkeley license after 18 months. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message