From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 31 11:29:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C1F37B408; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jetpac.epcdirect.co.uk (mail.epcdirect.co.uk [195.10.242.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6221B440D3; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:24:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-hw@epcdirect.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost.epcdirect.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) by jetpac.epcdirect.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BD9467A2; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:23:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from lfarr (l-farr.int.epcdirect.co.uk [192.168.6.200]) by jetpac.epcdirect.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87D4467E2; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:23:48 +0100 (BST) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: "'Jan Beck'" , , Subject: RE: Harddisk damage by driver? Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:23:48 +0100 Message-ID: <002501c238bf$69dceb30$c806a8c0@lfarr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: <000c01c238b3$91b0a6d0$0401a8c0@jan> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by EPC-Direct (jetpac.epcdirect.co.uk) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I certainly have had drives killed by poor ventilation. I went through drive after drive, got fed up, installed decent cooling, and never lost another on that box. Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Jan Beck > Sent: 31 July 2002 17:59 > To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? > > > That brings up a very good question. How many people have had > problems due > to overheating? > > I have had the very odd problem of having 2 IDE drives die > over the past > month, most likely due to overheating, since it gets very hot > in my dual > athlon system. These drives had very high usage at almost all > times. In my > file server, however, the hard drives get VERY hot. So much > so, that you > can't touch them without burning your hands. All the drives > in the file > server have been running well over a year in those conditions > and I haven't > had any problems with it. The server load itself is very > light, however. > > I have heard of drives failig due to heat, but never due to > usage. But I can > guarantee that the 7200 RPM drives in the file server are > much hotter than > the drives in the workstations were. > > Does usage have any bearing on drive life? It seems that the > cooling is not > important as long as the usage load on the drives is fairly low... > > Or have I just been really lucky? > > JAn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "vizion communication" > To: "Axel Simon" ; "Bakul Shah" > > Cc: ; > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:39 AM > Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? > > > > I would agree the problem is likely to be > > electrical/mechanical and the most likely cause is > > overheating. Your experience with the drive that came up > > after some time does point to overheating. > > > > However you might want to rule out a mal-functioning power > > supply unit which could cause similar symptoms. This is > > unlikely but possible. > > > > David > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bakul Shah" > > To: "Axel Simon" > > Cc: ; > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:27 AM > > Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? > > > > > > > The fack that all the drives die makes me think may be > > your > > > puter is not properly ventilated and the hard disks get > > very > > > hot. You may have had very bad luck with all the drives > > but > > > that is not very likely. A bad cable would give you > > > read/write errors but it won't make your disk make loud > > > repetitive clicking noises! A FreeBSD driver can not be > > at > > > fault either with modern IDE or SCSI drives. > > > > > > See if the disks get very hot and if so, see if keeping > > the > > > box open and pointing a big fan at the disks make the > > errors > > > go away. If the heat is a problem, you can do a number of > > > things to keep good air flow around disks. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the > > message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message