From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 13:30:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227B51065670; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E06B8FC0C; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBE209.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.226.9]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p8BDUlDe078450; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:30:47 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8BDUbef051599; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:30:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8BDUJMO060192; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:30:25 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201109111330.p8BDUJMO060192@fire.js.berklix.net> to: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:19:33 +0200." Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:30:19 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: bf1783@gmail.com, Raphael Kubo da Costa , Julian Seward Subject: Re: man bzip2 - suggest we add to See Also X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:30:50 -0000 Hi, Repost of mine, with restored cc: Julian Seward as I just noticed (while later answering Chris Rees), that Julian Seward ( author of imported code in src/ ) mistakenly dropped by bf1783@gmail.com (so Chris inherited depleted CC line from b f) Reference: > From: "Julian H. Stacey" > Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:19:33 +0200 > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > "b. f." wrote: > > > > > > I suggest we should add a See Also section to man bzip2, > > > > > > FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE & current man bzip2 > > > .../-current/src/contrib/bzip2/bzip2.1 > > > > > > adding URLs > > > http://www.7-zip.org/download.html -> > > > http://www.freshports.org/archivers/p7zip/ > > > > > > as currently no reference is made to 7zip or 7-zip > > > > I'm a bit confused -- are you recommending this because you think that > > users should be aware of the the other compression methods/archive > > formats that 7zip uses, so that they can investigate alternatives, or > > just because it is a Windows program that can decompress bzipped > > files? > > Yes. > If FreeBSD users happen to export .bz2 files to Microsoft users, > uts nice to be able to tell MS users at least 1 MS program that can > access the format. > > > In either case, I don't see any reason to single out 7zip -- > > we have xz(1) in the base system now, and there are other, arguably > > better compression methods in Ports. And there is a lot of > > Windows-based software that can decompress bzip2, including Windows > > ports of bzip2 itself. > > OK didnt know that. by all means add a URL. > > > I don't think that the bzip2 manpage is the > > appropriate place to add this kind of information. (Perhaps the > > FreeBSD Handbook, in a section about working with files typically > > found on FreeBSD or other Unixen in Windows, or in libarchive(5), if > > it were changed to support the 7zip archive format.) And I don't think > > that -hackers is the appropriate list for this proposal -- -doc seems > > to be the right place. > > Well I'm an old Unix hand, I have much more faith in the man command, > that works on machines even if no net connected. (& easy to edit, > & format without the tool chain from hell that doc uses) hence I > suggested adding a URL in see also of man. > > Cos' if eg I get a phone call from an MS [l]user saying "what do I > do with your .bz2?" I would first by reflex type man bzip2 /See > Also. & not first connect to net & mouse around to docs. > > Cheers, > Julian > -- > Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com > Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. > Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. > http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17th Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ Oct. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17th Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ Oct.