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Date:      Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:28:44 +0000
From:      Scott Mitchell <scott.mitchell@mail.com>
To:        "Brian T.Schellenberger" <bts@babbleon.org>
Cc:        Rodrigo A B Freire <bsdstuffs@brasilia.br>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Newbie: 4.4-stable, how to?
Message-ID:  <20020113202844.B21380@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <0da520355170d12FE8@mail8.nc.rr.com>; from bts@babbleon.org on Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 12:54:42PM -0500
References:  <00b901c19c43$3454d040$ea489ac8@rodhome> <0da520355170d12FE8@mail8.nc.rr.com>

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On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 12:54:42PM -0500, Brian T.Schellenberger wrote:
> On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:01 am, Rodrigo A B Freire wrote:
> >     People,
> >
> >     Is there an easy way to install the 4.4-stable version, without the
> > complication of CVSup, etc. etc etc.?
> 
> No.  If you don't want all that complexity you just need to wait for the next 
> release.  They come out about once a quarter, so this shouldn't be an 
> enormous burden.
> 
> Besides, cvsup and buildworld are really very easy to do; just following the 
> "leading edge" section of the handbook and read /usr/ports/UPDATING.
> 
> I know it sounds scary but it's really very smooth (at least if you have a 
> fast internet connection--I imagine it's pretty tiresome on a regular phone 
> modem).

It's actually not as bad as you might think.  Cvsup manages to do a *very*
good job of both transferring as little data as it can get away with and
streaming it rather than doing thousands of little request-reply
interactions (the latency on a dialup will kill you once you start down
that road).

I have a local CVS repository here holding src and ports.  This gets
cvsupped probably about once a week; the whole process takes around 5-10
minutes over a 33k6 dialup.  I set it up initially by unpacking the
repository snapshot from a 4.4 CD -- the initial cvsup to get that up to
date was somewhat painful, but it hasn't been too bad since.

Not that I'm not looking forward to getting my cable modem, you understand,
just that it's not impossible to do these things with the old technology
:-)

	Scott

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