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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 13:39:33 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > What seems to be confusing here is that TrueOS/FreeNAS's "package base" > and the work that has been on going IN the FreeBSD base system for 2+ (3?) > years are 2 different things with different goal sets and this CFT has very > much muddied that water as to what is what. > > Is there an advocation by iXsystems and TrueOS to replace what is in the > base system now with this new Go implementation in ports? > > Are they orthagonal? If so can we please rename one? > > > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org Seriously Rod, this is just embarrassing now. Obviously you completely uninformed on the work being presented, I suggest you bother to take 5-10 minutes and try it for yourself. Feel free to let me know if you find any "Go" code in the CFT. (Spoilers: There's none). It's a less intrusive way of doing pkg base that only has a small patch to poudriere (Shell) and then some port Makefiles (or are those suspect now as well?) Seriously, I'm not sure what has set you off recently, but you're doing a disservice to yourself and to the community with these kind of irrational and ignorant arguments. -- Kris Moore Vice President of Engineering iXsystems, Inc Ph: (408) 943-4100 Ph: (408) 943-4101 The Groundbreaking TrueNAS M-Series - Enterprise Storage & Servers Driven By Open Source