Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:44:48 -0700 From: milki <milki@rescomp.berkeley.edu> To: Steve Wills <swills@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com>, freebsd ports <freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org>, ruby@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Time to mark portupgrade deprecated? Message-ID: <20110725024448.GC36676@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4E2CD52C.8060701@FreeBSD.org> References: <CAF6rxg=TfxbKJwbcm6_c8P7m6%2B-pzvB9SpwKB99%2BLDe4OM%2BeLA@mail.gmail.com> <4E2CD52C.8060701@FreeBSD.org>
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On 22:30 Sun 24 Jul , Steve Wills wrote: > On 07/24/11 22:20, Eitan Adler wrote: > > At this point noone is maintaining portupgrade any more and a large > > number of PRs have been filed against it (see > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?text=portupgrade). No > > one has stepped up to do the work to fix these bugs so it is time to > > officially drop it. > > Personally, I agree it's time to drop it if no one is going to do the > work to maintain it, which at this point it seems clear is not going to > happen. I'd be happy to be proven wrong about that. > > So the question becomes, how do we go about doing it? First step would > be changing the handbook. Most UPDATING entries seem to include both > portupgrade and portmaster instructions these days, so that should be > covered. The next issue would be warning portupgrade users, perhaps by > marking the port DEPRECATED? I'd think a date a little longer than the > usual month would be needed before expiring. I would agree with this for the most part. However, when I recently fubarred my /usr/ports/packages when I accidently terminated in the middle of portmaster operations, I found the easiest way to recover was to use portupgrade (portmaster was complaining about missing packages and deleting/reinstalling/deinstalling/etc failed to fix this). I think its good to have alternate installers for situations like this since they have different strengths and weaknesses. Certainly documentation for portmaster needs to be added and promoted as a ports manager. That being said, I personally have had some vested interest in improving portupgrade and looked over the code when I submitted a patch before knowing no one was fixing it. In my naivete, maybe I could tackle portupgrade... -- milki milki@rescomp.berkeley.edu
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