From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 7 20:17:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E162037B406 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2001 20:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22050 invoked by uid 100); 8 Oct 2001 03:17:24 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15297.6852.821830.699264@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 22:17:24 -0500 To: groggy@iname.com, "mark / badger?" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions list In-Reply-To: <36222922@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG groggy@iname.com types: > freebsd-questions bounces mail back: > > a) when you connect with a dynamic PPP account > and use your local sendmail (instead of the ISP MTA). > > b) when you are on a private ethernet behind a "ppp -nat" > connection and use your machines local sendmail > (instead of the gateways MTA). This isn't true. I'm using my own mail server on a private ethernet behind a nat box that's connected to the net with a dynamic IP address. Mail to the freebsd lists works just fine. I'm more worried about some vigilante group adding me to a DUL than I am about people who bounce mail from mismanaged domains. Of course, my ISP has proper reverse DNS set up for my IP address, which is the only one being used. > ie - the "blackhole" lists (maybe - dunno - don't use it) Well, one of those vigilante lists started blocking all blocks they could identify as dynamic IP, so that would just recreate problem a. The others lists open relays, which includes large chunks of the western pacific rim. FreeBSD gets a lot of usage in that area, so blocking them would potentially cause lots of our users problems. mark / badger? types: > Why do you choose not to use the ISPs mail server? (genuinely interested to > know what benefits there are to running your server locally when you're on > dialup/behind a NAT, other than the ability to spam with more impunity) If you have an ISP that knows what they're doing, then you're avoiding an extra hop in the mail system. They also shouldn't have any objection to your taking some of the load off their servers. If your ISP doesn't know what they're doing - well, that's enough reason by itself. Based on the down time I see on my ISPs POP server, mail that would be delivered directly in minutes would regularly wind up spending hours sitting in the queues I have to run for my internal mail anyway. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message