From owner-cvs-all Sun Jan 10 15:42:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00173 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:42:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from octopus.originative.co.uk (originat.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00168 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:42:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@originative.co.uk) Received: by OCTOPUS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:41:06 -0000 Message-ID: From: Paul Richards To: "'Mike Smith'" Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: sysctl descriptions Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:41:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Smith [mailto:mike@smith.net.au] > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 1999 8:16 PM > To: Bill Fumerola > Cc: Jordan K. Hubbard; sthaug@nethelp.no; darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au; > committers@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: sysctl descriptions > > > > On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > 2. Let the committers vote these sorts of technical > decisions since we > > > can both get a much better "turnout" from committers > on an issue > > > (when we're lucky to get even half of core to vote > sometimes) and > > > we also involve most those who generally end up doing > most of the > > > work. Fair is fair, right? > > > > Some sort of automatic means of voting would be nice. > Committers all have > > the means to be authenticated and vote (freefall), and > certainly more > > positions are going to be reprsented, such as people > working on small > > kernels and such, alpha people, ports, etc.. > > > > I'd hate for us to have 50 committees and respective > chairpeople, and a > > committer vote would be nice. Perhaps an existing system (a > cvs file that > > people modify?) could be used to track these votes. > > > > All just ideas flowing through my mind, comments please.. > > A formal voting scheme would have (MHO) too much overhead, and would > likely just slow us down. I think we all like the "rough > consensus and > working code" philosohpy, and I feel strongly that it's a > critical part > of what makes working for this project so worthwhile. This is actually how the Apache project works, all patches have to be formally voted. Personally I found it very stifling, you lost a lot of momentum while patches get backed up in the voting process. It's probably the most used piece of OSS software that exists though so there might be a lesson there :-) Paul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message