From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Feb 15 17:20:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CC914E1823 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 17:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8699472AD5 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 17:20:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7F333C0B; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 12:15:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id EB8F3150C488; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 12:15:01 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Arthur Chance Cc: Valeri Galtsev , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: "Smartness-free" web browser? References: <4fc0f22a-c901-aa8c-e083-adbeef12a525@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 12:15:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Arthur Chance's message of "Fri, 15 Feb 2019 16:19:53 +0000") Message-ID: <44k1i1q8h6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8699472AD5 X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.65 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.40)[-0.399,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ilk.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.40)[0.404,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: be-well.ilk.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.27)[-0.268,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.07)[ip: (0.10), ipnet: 23.30.0.0/15(0.08), asn: 7922(-0.46), country: US(-0.07)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 17:20:30 -0000 Arthur Chance writes: > On 15/02/2019 15:36, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> >> On 2/15/19 9:23 AM, Arthur Chance wrote: >>> On 15/02/2019 15:18, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>>> Dear Experts, >>>> >>>> I am looking for "Smartness-free" web browser. In the past I was using >>>> midori, but today I was bitten in my backside by "smartness" introduced >>>> into latest midori. >>>> >>>> Why. I have a bunch of machines with older 3ware RAIDs. The last I loved >>>> for having web interface. To the contrary to command line, especially in >>>> case of hardware RAID management, it is much more difficult to screw up >>>> when using GUI. >>>> >>>> In the past, when firefox went all the way about SSL certificates, >>>> midori was my life preserver. I do access these RAID web interfaces >>>> locally, and I do know what's going on inside these machines... I can >>>> disable SSL in 3ware RAID daemon (this time it just doesn't accept >>>> certificates 3ware daemon presents - to way for me to affect that that I >>>> can find) but... I just don't like some piece of software thinking it is >>>> smarter than I am when I use it. Dough. >>>> >>>> Any suggestions, anybody? >>> >>> Depending on how much graphic decoration the GUI uses, maybe a text >>> based browser like lynx might serve your needs? >>> >> >> Thanks for suggestion! >> >> Alas, 3ware uses frames which lunx doesn't support... > > In which case, maybe links (www/links). From its features list > >> Tables, frames in both graphics and text mode, built-in image display > in graphics mode. > > Please note, I haven't used it, I'm just going by its documentation. It does okay. www/w3m sometimes does better.