From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 19:49:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CFD16A509; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:49:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA2E43D31; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:49:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from localhost (rocky.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.2]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9IJnhpO003729; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:49:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua ([82.193.96.10]) by localhost (rocky.ipnet [82.193.96.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 46096-07; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:49:42 +0300 (EEST) Received: from heffalump.ip.net.ua (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9IJnZ0Y003720; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:49:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by heffalump.ip.net.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) id i9IJnRkJ024769; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:49:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:49:27 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "David O'Brien" Message-ID: <20041018194927.GG89681@ip.net.ua> References: <200410181719.i9IHJa9l097436@repoman.freebsd.org> <20041018173516.GB89681@ip.net.ua> <20041018174511.GA6079@dragon.nuxi.com> <20041018183118.GA80703@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20041018184234.GC10529@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E69HUUNAyIJqGpVn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041018184234.GC10529@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ip.net.ua cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org cc: src-committers@freebsd.org cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/i386/net htonl.S ntohl.S X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:49:45 -0000 --E69HUUNAyIJqGpVn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 11:42:34AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 08:31:18PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 10:45:11AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > Yes. You missed the discussion in freebsd-current on this? > .. > > I have certainly not seen any message stating that on -current. >=20 > To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org > Subject: [PATCH] optimizing X now that we don't support i386 CPU's on 6-= CURRENT > Message-ID: <20041016174925.GA96809@dragon.nuxi.com> >=20 Well, it's less than three days old, and you made a major decision with this commit that the world no longer supports i386 by default. I wish you discussed in on arch@ first. I re-read this thread, and it seems that you think that since nobody reported a success running on i386 then it's time to kill I386 support in our world by default? I can also read a message from John Nielsen in this same thread saying he was able to install 5.2 on 386DX, so perhaps you owe a dinner to Xin next time you're in Bejing. ;) > > I know that the GENERIC kernel does not work on a i386, so that you > > need a custom-built kernel to install on a real i386. > > I also know that support for FPU-less systems has been dropped, which > > means that most 386-based systems (those without an '387) (as well as > > systems with a 486sx w/o a 487sx) will not run RELENG_5 or -CURRENT. > >=20 > > Neither of these means that a real 80386+80387 is unsupported, just > > that you need to build a new kernel first. >=20 > I see nothing wrong with having to build a new userland before it will > run on I386 since we already have to do that with the kernel. >=20 Having libc optimized for >386 by default is good (IMO), but what you've committed can't be used easily to compile for i386. Perhaps you will adopt/apply my suggestions, and then we will fix the issue for i386 users. I agree with Xin that this deserves a HEADS UP since default world will no longer support i386 hardware. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --E69HUUNAyIJqGpVn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBdB5HqRfpzJluFF4RAr3YAJ9Hy/qiTxGxswm9FJWZ/G3HpDJF0gCbB1qX P+QKSEaLhsdJC/MOur6ILpY= =v3hD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E69HUUNAyIJqGpVn--