From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Jan 1 23:57:05 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4201E43D5 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2020 23:57:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: from mail-il1-x12a.google.com (mail-il1-x12a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47p7PX0kkfz4X6T for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2020 23:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: by mail-il1-x12a.google.com with SMTP id t8so32951640iln.4 for ; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 15:57:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=adamw-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject:date:message-id :references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=SedYhKE2eiB0YTmGvAzz3d8yWP4B8YAzV9DBVEFsvjQ=; b=zQkwxB+7tIv49QT+vEuz6eysrgykoMK8W27ELqmS2G64VIlsgCdHgYflq8rx6RvFPY v4ufNrV7EoFGb/dX6ZHLcp284WGGDNQGC3xNJydTQv8ii7/9g9rpA7r+oO3oFfBzucZj i+hTupzBaobxRugN1lUMpoASB49AkLuuz9+1EJilKokIiM4jDALzAoJYHkcvyVcek4ED 3Dn+iGQuT8TO+h2UiEWHUqkFpXD2Tk+ikDVJxJ39tmMmqmtT7O1Uu9cyYqfaNL7RGwaM vGnbhjCSjp53kQGmhdtTHhOpaHOB7lbbJpmGmHje+JXNmouCi/Os/100SkM42IzFT8x1 9NXA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version :subject:date:message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=SedYhKE2eiB0YTmGvAzz3d8yWP4B8YAzV9DBVEFsvjQ=; b=WzvfoWb/SuN7P9YOD4GEx3EmovIMWQf/A3kZB4QN0XIAhZqBEgFNaNyX2g+kDhsIy8 EZ0l3+5Nd+Qmw1ySdW8anoBlp96q+rDIL2rvMpsmPfFBelkqfubb6xh4ex9ZaigHuPj/ M/u+Twku0Y4GwWXcM2K0JtZm5Nwi2crIchH+F1mQE/Og/Vg8Z3/wBjYf4qKnuD/1lo1x n6seE0FEw9NWO9nXmhXFUlAVpnTuWPJlVp4EH56/KPn/1D7FpCsJ5NIXu1XTtPy45Vpg Jy9oDVmZl5lPz26b9dcbHi+aE0DdrmuC1EhX1WBH3Q2mR7Rf3DVvdiWaNzQtq1WuLjsa drxw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWpCvlzkphGNqJho5E6cRp6LoeMU3v67kJ10rrPctJpImMko0qp +CuK4hQzNoREo92U29Pdw8vXNIwFjaw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx7Btx5Fmy881gt/mYjqLxjouGWqh1gynjfuY8oW09iKhnJgsqGWUA/TTThIP+xvkJgPxGZtQ== X-Received: by 2002:a92:4781:: with SMTP id e1mr65806313ilk.147.1577923022489; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 15:57:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.18] ([75.161.204.24]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 81sm19205890ilx.40.2020.01.01.15.57.01 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 01 Jan 2020 15:57:01 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Adam Weinberger Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Portmaster failing Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 16:57:00 -0700 Message-Id: <69EC35FF-8952-44D9-960E-5BC764B37D6B@adamw.org> References: Cc: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: To: "@lbutlr" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (17C54) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47p7PX0kkfz4X6T X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=adamw-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=zQkwxB+7; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of adamw@adamw.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::12a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=adamw@adamw.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.55 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[adamw-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[adamw.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[adamw-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.55)[ip: (-8.66), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.14), asn: 15169(-1.87), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 23:57:05 -0000 > On Jan 1, 2020, at 15:49, @lbutlr wrote: >=20 >>>> You are right that there wasn't a warning, and that was a major >>>> mistake that should not have happened. security/openssl and >>>> security/openssl111 should have contained messages about this switch. >>>=20 >>> Since openssl updated about a week ago, this oversight falls into the cl= ass that I would call ???inexcusable???. If I did this on a job I would (rig= htly) be immediately fired. >>>=20 >>> I would fire me if I did something like this. >=20 >> If we fired every volunteer when some mishap has happened, we >> would run of of volunteers very fast. >=20 > This was the responsibility of a single volunteer? Removing openssl withou= t warning wasn=E2=80=99t something that was discussed over the last six mont= hs? Ok, let=E2=80=99s stop there. Nobody is going to get fired, and insulting ou= r team of volunteers who worked incredibly hard to bring the openssl switch t= o fruition is unproductive and uncalled-for. I already acknowledged that we n= eed to do it better next time, so let=E2=80=99s focus instead on solving pro= blems rather than lashing out to people who are here simply to help. # Adam =E2=80=94 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org https://www.adamw.org=