From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 26 01:33:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654BD16A417 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04A013C45A for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IwSql-0001Tz-Oe for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:33:27 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with SMTP id lAQ1XQ2x001186 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:33:27 GMT Received: (qmail 82640 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Nov 2007 01:33:21 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:33:21 +0000 To: "eBoundHost: Artur" Message-ID: <20071126013321.GA82569@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <000401c82fb0$191b53b0$f300a8c0@outkast> <000301c82fbe$6ff618b0$6701a8c0@mobility> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000301c82fbe$6ff618b0$6701a8c0@mobility> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:33:27 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: who wrote this X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:33:45 -0000 On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 05:53:54PM -0600, eBoundHost: Artur wrote: > > T, > > I don't know any soft way to say this. The man, Hitler, was the most evil > person that our generation has ever witnessed. He wasn't witnessed by our generation & IMHO Stalin was worse. > The things he did and what was done on his behalf are unspeakable > and give him a special place in whatever hell you believe in. I don't believe in hell - any sort of hell. > As a society, we should distance ourselves and shun any imagery that > puts any kind of human side to this monster. Why should we stop putting any human side to him? He was clearly a human being. > Saying that he loved dogs and was an art afficionado is completely > irrelevant if you know anything about his actions. Because it shows him to be a human being? > > There are far more worthy quotes that can be put into FreeBSD and I don't > think its debateable. You don't think it's debatable, but I do. > > What really gets me is the fact that this is one of the examples put on the > FreeBSD page. I'm all for freedom and libertarian ideals, but for petes' > sake, have some compassion and understand where your liberty crosses over > into the pain of someone else's family. Why didn't they put on that page > along with "quotes about hitler", "jokes about cancer" and "funny rape > stories." Good idea! Anybody got any good cancer or rape gags we can put in fortune? > > I don't want to outlaw anything, but have some good taste. You *do* want to outlaw things on the grounds of "taste". > Learn to > moderate yourselves, this is what "freedom" is all based on, being good to > others. Nonsense. Freedom is about the right to voice disagreement with others amongst other things. > > I would appreciate if someone would help me find the person who can help to > modify the text on this page. > http://www.freebsd.org/internal/fortunes.html > I think it can be worded differently and get the point accross without > giving any extra attention to this monster. It's a good example and shouldn't be changed IMO. PS. What should be abolished on the grounds of decency is top posting & rehashing topics that have been gone on about ad nauseum, & on the wrong mailing list. -- Frank Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html