From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Apr 22 3:50:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361A237B422 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 03:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3MAo4H10854; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 03:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 03:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104221050.f3MAo4H10854@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Cc: From: Riccardo Torrini Subject: Re: misc/26744: Unable to send mail to FreeBSD.org from home and from work Reply-To: Riccardo Torrini Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The following reply was made to PR misc/26744; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Riccardo Torrini To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt , Kris Kennaway , Szilveszter Adam Subject: Re: misc/26744: Unable to send mail to FreeBSD.org from home and from work Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:47:22 +0200 (CEST) Thanks to all who take time to answer my PR. The only thing I don't understand is: why you think is more important (to try to) block spam instead of solve my (and not only my) problems? I send a lot of PR and I hope they may help all of us, but this was the one with the faster feedback. Bad :( > ...both forward and reverse resolvable in the DNS, and > in addition those resolutions must be symmectrical... Yeah. Great idea. So I can send trash mail to any mail server if I use a dialup line and configure my machine as "dialup-foo-bar-42.myisp.example.org" (the same as the reverse) and cannot send mail from the _STATIC_ _IP_ (was a cost option to me) that Italian RIPE never reverse? Asked for this problem RIPE told me that reverse with be removed within some years ahead. :-? Or because my work ISP (the biggest here in Italy) is badly configured and has different IP from forward to reverse in his DNS? And in your opinion why I'd continue to send-pr? > ...assuming that your ISP's master mailserver is named... Try the real thing: my ISP has his mailserver open to my static range of IP from work. Using /etc/mail/mailertable I forced mail for FreeBSD.org to him but failed again. And now I know why: it break the 2nd rule (symmectrical). # host mail.cs.interbusiness.it mail.cs.interbusiness.it has address 151.99.250.122 # host 151.99.250.122 Host not found. # host 151.99.250.6 6.250.99.151.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain name pointer mail.cs.interbusiness.it > spool all outgoing e-mail through your ISP's mailserver And loose all my mail in a black hole? Why? No, thanks. > "I have my gun and I own this house and I can do whatever the > hell I want in it." Not whatever, only avoid badly configured ISP, like mine. > "Line up or Get lost!" approach taken by OpenBSD. You lost. Lost my help. Sorry, but I have only a few free time and cannot loose it with web interface. > Just as an aside, this alleged spam protection does not help much: > The most spam I receive comes through the FreeBSD lists. Sigh. Not the most. The first spam I received was from freebsd-current. > This means in my case no send-pr from my machine. And the web interface cost me a lot of work because I cannot pre-configure any of the field of the form, for example. Best regards, Riccardo. /------------------------+---------------------------------------\ | Riccardo "VIC" Torrini | W.W.W.: www.torrini.org // | | Via Montebello, 64 | e-mail : riccardo@torrini.org // | | 50123 Firenze (I) +--------------------------------\\//---| | phone: +39-055-286.574 | This space for rent :-) | \------------------------+---------------------------------------/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message