From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jun 10 09:54:52 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1160B32F2C7 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 09:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49hj5R5ZCWz3TSf for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 09:54:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BCBB632F63B; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 09:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB63832F40F for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 09:54:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: from mx.blih.net (mx.blih.net [212.83.155.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx.blih.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49hj5Q4bQ2z3TbS; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 09:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bidouilliste.com; s=mx; t=1591782881; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=laF0jcZemONMEpcYRRSEcFceL+amfEiRt+vaAbWBPFo=; b=YBONjbugxNDtDt9wcE4tLyztWcujGdKfEgclXoAC9sGA4Dk46Y9UMfgncTThr5sZ7VUz9w pNTQ6yYdFn4V/srqwVIQYFVL0xViTEFAwC7NpHeabR3yZuYZwfZl78aW/IQqydCkXE+oJo IEQFujaB7hToGLcbcF25nVFtRRxBPFc= Received: from skull.home.blih.net (lfbn-idf2-1-900-181.w86-238.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.238.131.181]) by mx.blih.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 1553ce98 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Wed, 10 Jun 2020 09:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 11:54:40 +0200 From: Emmanuel Vadot To: Clay Daniels Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" , re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nightly snapshot for CURRENT ? Message-Id: <20200610115440.3bfee23878ee5b7dd90c45e0@bidouilliste.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20200609214756.13e9cbbc2de12bbb78839875@bidouilliste.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49hj5Q4bQ2z3TbS X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bidouilliste.com header.s=mx header.b=YBONjbug; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=bidouilliste.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of manu@bidouilliste.com designates 212.83.155.74 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=manu@bidouilliste.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.95 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bidouilliste.com:s=mx]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.02)[-1.017]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bidouilliste.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[bidouilliste.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.52)[-0.524]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.91)[-0.912]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12876, ipnet:212.83.128.0/19, country:FR]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 09:54:52 -0000 On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 19:16:47 -0500 Clay Daniels wrote: > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 2:48 PM Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > > > > Hello all, > > > > I've just hit again something that I've hit (and probably others too) > > often. > > If a change in base break some ports and it's snapshoted in the txz > > available at download.freebsd.org, you need to wait a week for the next > > tarball to be available. > > Since poudriere uses the tarball when you setup a jail it means that > > the only solution you have is to recreate your jail by building it, and > > since building world nowdays is very expensive that delay your work too > > much. > > Would it be possible to generate the tarballs every day instead of > > every week ? At least for tier-1 arches. > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > Emmanuel Vadot > > _______________________________________________ > > > > At first I thought you were referring to the weekly snapshots packaged as > install images: > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/13.0/ > > But I think you are talking about the snapshots of each part, like base, > kernel, ports. src, etc to use as a roll your own install like: > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/arm64/13.0-CURRENT/ Yup > From my selfish perspective as a weekly installer of the regular Thursday > image or iso of 13.0 Current, I would hate to lose the pre-rolled > installer, and I think there are probably others like me. As long as you > keep the weekly install snapshots, it will not affect folks like me. I must > say that what you want to do is how NetBSD does their daily current > snapshots, and they do not even offer pre-rolled install images. > > But you are a real developer and I'm just a retired guy playing with his > hobby, so go ahead and do what you think is best for you. > > Clay I'm not talking about loosing those weekly installer image, I just want more tarballs :) -- Emmanuel Vadot