From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Sep 2 18:45:23 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9BD3C4C09 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2020 18:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "troutmask", Issuer "troutmask" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BhXtp0VsDz42nF; Wed, 2 Sep 2020 18:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 082IjJ4p050848 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Sep 2020 11:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 082IjJNi050847; Wed, 2 Sep 2020 11:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 11:45:19 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: Warner Losh Cc: Ed Maste , Kurt Jaeger , "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Plans for git (was: Please check the current beta git conversions) Message-ID: <20200902184519.GA50712@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20200902045939.GA15897@eureka.lemis.com> <20200902060117.GG53210@home.opsec.eu> <20200902063136.GA47543@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20200902164706.GA49777@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BhXtp0VsDz42nF X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.32 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.48)[-0.476]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.81)[-0.806]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.04)[-0.040]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:73, ipnet:128.95.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[washington.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM, none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 18:45:23 -0000 On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 11:11:50AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 10:47 AM Steve Kargl < > sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > > This is an insultingly stupid comment to make. We don't need people to say > the obvious. > > This sort of comment isn't helpful. People will just ignore you if you make > too many of them like it. > I don't find it insulting at all. I have 15+ years experience using svn with both GCC and FreeBSD repositories. GCC changed from svn and git with little regard to its impact on developers (except for those pushing the move to git). gfortran has lost one of its most active bug fixer/contributors because he knows 0 about git. By extension FreeBSD lost one of the few users that actually tried to ensure GCC works on FreeBSD (hopefully, people don't use g++'s complex math without testing!). -- Steve