From owner-freebsd-security Thu Apr 18 16: 9:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F5BA37B416 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 16:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 62643 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Apr 2002 23:09:53 -0000 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 01:09:53 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Brett Glass Cc: Nate Williams , Christopher Schulte , security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-02:21.tcpip Message-ID: <20020419010953.L60925@mail.webmonster.de> Mail-Followup-To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" , Brett Glass , Nate Williams , Christopher Schulte , security@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020418095356.024354c0@nospam.lariat.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020417230144.032ad390@nospam.lariat.org> <200204171923.g3HJNga58899@freefall.freebsd.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020418095356.024354c0@nospam.lariat.org> <15550.62541.903626.398637@caddis.yogotech.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20020418114304.00dccf00@nospam.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8SdtHY/0P4yzaavF" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020418114304.00dccf00@nospam.lariat.org>; from brett@lariat.org on Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 11:49:24AM -0600 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer X-Work-URL: http://www.ngenn.net/ X-Work-Address: nGENn GmbH, Schloss Kransberg, D-61250 Usingen-Kransberg, Germany X-Work-Phone: +49-6081-682-304 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --8SdtHY/0P4yzaavF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brett Glass(brett@lariat.org)@2002.04.18 11:49:24 +0000: > How does one know that there isn't a system-crashing bug in some other > part of the tree for the same date? What's needed is not just the > snapshot that happened to be available that day (or today) but one > that's known to be reasonably stable. Remember, a snapshot of -STABLE=20 > taken on a random day is not guaranteed even to boot! if you need an os with "system-crashing bugs" and "not guaranteed even to boot" (at least after a severe crash), you might want to check out windows XP ;-) i heard there are "random snapshots" of driver binaries and libraries available for download at its manufacturer's web site, too. word of mouth even told me that someone "certified professional"=20 may be called to fix your always b0rked systems after receiving moderate=20 amounts of $$$.=20 :-> sorry, couldn't resist. /k --=20 > Open Minds. Open Sources. Open Future. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 My mail is GnuPG signed -- Unsigned ones are bogus -- http://www.gnupg.org/ Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --8SdtHY/0P4yzaavF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8v1JBM0BPTilkv0YRAngIAKCeXXmjMf/HIKO8lTor8hN6/Kv32wCfVD57 TK+A/wicOhraiHF8NleHPOU= =bhWd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8SdtHY/0P4yzaavF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message