From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 16 21:06:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA07640 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 21:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07624 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 21:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA09755; Fri, 17 May 1996 13:45:13 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605170415.NAA09755@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: /stand/ee To: hsu@clinet.fi (Heikki Suonsivu) Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 13:45:12 +0930 (CST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199605170101.EAA09562@cantina.clinet.fi> from "Heikki Suonsivu" at May 17, 96 04:01:43 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Heikki Suonsivu stands accused of saying: > > The point is not "how easy it is to learn", it is "how easy it is to use". > People should not need to learn an editor to install an operating system, > the editor needs to be obvious enough that it can be simply be used. > > The simplest possible job and the most important is to get out of the > editor. In ee you need to type > > ctrl-c quit > > and it is not obvious from the initial screen. You type and select it from the menu. This is the first thing listed in the help region at the top of the screen. > In pico you type > > ctrl-x > > and the instructions are in the bottom line. I prefer pico's interface, yes. It's significantly more bulky though. > If possible, the editor should at least use cursor movement commands of > emacs, as that is what almost all unix programs use by default, if not vi > commands (but vi is not the end-user's editor, that I can say for sure :). > In ee all commands seem to be completely random, they aren't even wordstar > ones but completely own. Cursor movement should be performed by the cursor keys. That's what they're for. ee does this OK. > I think pico is the best solution for small editor which even end-users can > use without problems, but your mileage may vary. pico is not small. There are plenty of small editors out there; 'ee' just got lucky. > Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@clinet.fi -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[