From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Mar 7 6: 4: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE4C37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:03:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f27Dh2r38292 ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:43:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id OAA13290 ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:42:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:42:58 +0100 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Brett Glass Cc: "Victor R. Cardona" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again Message-ID: <20010307144258.G642@lpt.ens.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Brett Glass , "Victor R. Cardona" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010305200017.D80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305123951.04604b20@localhost> <20010305205030.G80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305125259.00cfdae0@localhost> <20010305142108.A17269@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306011342.045fb360@localhost> <20010306081025.A22143@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306092612.00b79f00@localhost> <20010306174618.N32515@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306122244.04477f00@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306122244.04477f00@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 12:28:23PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass said on Mar 6, 2001 at 12:28:23: > > I won't suggest you don't know what you're talking > >about, because you obviously do, it's just that you're willing to > >distort anything to suit your own hate-Richard-Stallman agenda. > > Also untrue. I don't "hate" Richard Stallman, though I do believe > that what he is doing is unethical. It is Stallman who is filled > with hatred -- the result of the trauma documented so well in > Steven Levy's book "Hackers" and in Stallman's own writings -- > and is causing much harm. I'm speaking out against that hatred > and malice. > > I cannot understand why you are attacking me for doing so. The > only motivations I can imagine are (a) that you share Stallman's > spite and hatred; (b) that you've been taken in by the propaganda > he has spread to further his agenda; or (c) you think you have > something to gain within the social group of this mailing list > by attacking me. Let's say it's (a) and (b). Well, I'd say it differently: (a) I dislike the unethical monopolisation of intellectual property by major corporations and content publishers, and (b) I have read many of Stallman's writings and find much to agree with in them. But you'd phrase these two points as you did above. And that's fair enough, I suppose: because what you describe to others as your balanced view of Stallman's allegedly unethical behaviour, looks to me just like spite and hatred against the man. Rahul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message