From owner-freebsd-net Thu Jul 5 23:30:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from softweyr.com (softweyr.com [208.247.99.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324B737B408; Thu, 5 Jul 2001 23:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from localhost.softweyr.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=softweyr.com ident=599d54847f6b6c21166e63dfb8d0a377) by softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 15IPCi-00009m-00; Fri, 06 Jul 2001 00:35:04 -0600 Message-ID: <3B455C18.EB10C5DC@softweyr.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 00:35:04 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: Bakul Shah , Ruslan Ermilov , Deepak Jain , net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fastforwarding? References: <200107021954.PAA25927@goliath.cnchost.com> <3B41EB64.3B753DDE@softweyr.com> <200107041404.f64E44331564@whizzo.transsys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Louis A. Mamakos" wrote: > > Most router benchmarks and testing processes these days test forwarding > capacity in the face of routing table churn, which is closer to the > real-world experience. Personally, I don't buy forwarding cache-based > routers because this is a sign that the underlying infrastucture > isn't fast enough and you're banking on the cache hit rate being high > enough to save your ass. Show me a $25,000 router that can route 10,000,000 packets per second and I'll MAYBE agree with you. Compare that to the average router with one or maybe two routes outside the organization, and an interior routing table that is either non-existant or trivial. This discussion has devolved into yet another idiotic bikeshed. Nobody claimed anwhere along the line that fastforwarding was a solution to all routing ills, suitable for use in a core router, or acceptable for any of the wildly esoteric CRAP espoused in the past 10 or 12 messages in this thread. If you don't like fastforwarding, don't use it, but don't get in the way of people who use it and maintain it. Sheesh. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message