From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Oct 21 04:39:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA09494 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:39:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ren.dtir.qld.gov.au (ns.dtir.qld.gov.au [203.108.138.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09481 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:38:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syssgm@dtir.qld.gov.au) Received: by ren.dtir.qld.gov.au; id UAA10749; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:21:17 +1000 (EST) Received: from ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au(167.123.8.3) by ren.dtir.qld.gov.au via smap (3.2) id xma010745; Wed, 21 Oct 98 20:21:02 +1000 Received: from atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au (atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au [167.123.8.9]) by ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA10286; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:21:01 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au [167.123.10.10]) by atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12226; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:21:01 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (localhost.dtir.qld.gov.au [127.0.0.1]) by nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA09162; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:20:59 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from syssgm@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au) Message-Id: <199810211020.UAA09162@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au> To: John-Mark Gurney cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, syssgm@dtir.qld.gov.au Subject: Re: 3.0-R on a amd386dx/40 References: <19981021004537.00515@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199810210847.SAA06623@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au> <19981021022458.12727@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199810210933.TAA07949@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au> <19981021023848.61590@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199810210955.TAA08445@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au> <19981021030658.41265@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> In-Reply-To: <19981021030658.41265@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> from John-Mark Gurney at "Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:06:58 -0700" Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:20:59 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday, 21st October 1998, John-Mark Gurney wrote: >Stephen McKay scribbled this message on Oct 21: >> Try "awk", for example. It uses floating point, and I think it will die. >> "df" uses double. "newfs" uses float. "ls" doesn't, and it works. It's >> a floating point problem, or I'll eat my copy of the Pointy Hat! >> >> I still think the "npx" lines from boot are relevant. > >ok, here are the lines: >npx0 on motherboard >npx0: 387 emulator > >these are the lines from a 2.2.6-R system that has problems running >the binaries... I assume they are the same when booting 3.0-R? I am still uncomfortable with the idea of debugging a (possibly complex) problem by running 3.0 binaries on a 2.2.x system. It's not designed to work. Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't. I'd rather you reported the behaviour of 3.0 binaries under a 3.0 kernel and 2.2.6 binaries under 2.2.6 kernel. Call me old fashioned. ;-) >I can't see how newfs would fail (elf) but systat (a.out) >would work perfectly fine under the same kernel if the emulator was >broken... Well, I kinda agree. Bummer. "The signs are clear, but point into the darkness", or some such. >oh, and fsck (a.out), newfs (a.out) and df (a.out) also >work perfectly fine... But, awk (elf) fails? And say, date (elf) works? That would point at FP probs even if, somehow, awk (a.out) still works. And now Robert Nordier thinks FP is involved. I hope he can do better than me, because I think I'm going back to the shallow end of the pool. Good luck! Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message