Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:10:07 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu> To: Andre Oppermann <andre@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Randall Stewart <rrs@cisco.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, gallatin@cs.duke.edu Subject: Re: Much improved sosend_*() functions Message-ID: <20060929231007.GS80527@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <451D973C.8070004@freebsd.org> References: <451C4850.5030302@freebsd.org> <Pine.BSF.4.58.0609281928020.20971@niwun.pair.com> <451D884F.1030807@cisco.com> <20060929213722.GR80527@funkthat.com> <451D973C.8070004@freebsd.org>
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Andre Oppermann wrote this message on Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 23:59 +0200:
> >w/ 512 byte mbuf and a 2k cluster just to store just 1514 bytes of data,
> >that's only 60% effeciency wrt to memory usage... so, we currently
> >waste 40% of memory allocated to mbufs+clusters... Even reducing
> >mbufs back to 128 or 256 would be a big help, though IPSEC I believe
> >would have issues...
>
> mbufs are 256 bytes.
Hmmm.. I keep getting this confused... maybe because there was discussion
about increasing this a few years back... or maybe because NOTES has
it as 512.. :)
> >Hmmm.. If we switched clusters to 1536 bytes in size, we'd be able to
> >fit 8 in 12k (though I guess for 8k page boxes we'd do 16 in 24k)... The
> >only issue w/ that would be that a few of the clusters would possibly
> >split page boundaries... How much this would effect performance would
> >be an interesting question to answer...
>
> Splitting page boundaries is not an option as it may not be physically
> contigous.
unless we do something strange like allocate them contigously... though
that introduces another set of issues....
> Just don't overengineer the stuff. Mbufs are only used temporarily and
> a bit theoretical waste is not much a problem (so far at least).
Well, I beg to differ... most gige cards grab mbuf+cluster for every
single ring buffer they have.. which is usually 512... so every gige
interface for the most part consumes 1meg of memory that is not
reusable... because if we run out of mbuf+clusters to replace in the
receive ring, we will not tap into the 1meg of mbuf+clusters available
to us... so, if you have a quad gige, that's 4megs wasted, plus w/ the
fact that we could only use ~65% of that memory, that's a lot of memory
wasted...
Yeh, everyone says you have gigs of memory, but do we really want to
be known as the wasteful OS?
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