From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 23 23:42:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF93A1065674 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A448FC14 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.63] (63.imp.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p3NNbvwt006040 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:37:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <4db35e8a.R5LDMfg8cygIRbfF%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:37:57 -0600 Message-Id: References: <4DB3142A.4000807@charter.net> <1E3F5B85-5A1A-4118-A9D8-932F46619C79@bsdimp.com> <4db35e8a.R5LDMfg8cygIRbfF%perryh@pluto.rain.com> To: perryh@pluto.rain.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (harmony.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.6]); Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:37:59 -0600 (MDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: lankfordandrew@charter.net, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: scd and mcd X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:42:28 -0000 On Apr 23, 2011, at 5:19 PM, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Warner Losh wrote: >=20 >> mcd and scd are ISA-only devices ... They were important for the >> 386 (now not supported) and 486 machines. Since the 486 machines >> in question maxed out at 32MB, and 8.x has trouble running in 32MB >> on x86, I'm guessing there aren't too many 486 SX/DX machines >> running 8.x. >=20 > 486 were the last for which ISA was the primary bus, but ISA was > still present (bridged from PCI) on most Pentium systems and common > at least as recently as Pentium-II. (I don't have a disassembled > P-III handy to check whether it has an ISA slot.) Most Pentium II and newer systems had IDE connectors on the motherboard. = Many of the Pentium I ones did too. Only if you didn't have IDE = connectors on mobo would you be likely to consider one of these CD's. = Also, I think they topped out at 4x or 8x speed since they had a custom = interface. Warner