From nobody Thu Oct 28 15:19:58 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA9918297D4; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 15:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@oldach.net) Received: from nuc.oldach.net (hmo.in-vpn.de [IPv6:2001:67c:1407:60::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "nuc.oldach.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Hg8Pg6QPqz4S1Y; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 15:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@oldach.net) Received: from nuc.oldach.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nuc.oldach.net (8.17.1/8.17.1/hmo17dec20) with ESMTPS id 19SFJwlk082442 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:19:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@oldach.net) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by nuc.oldach.net (8.17.1/8.17.1/Submit) id 19SFJwF0082441; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:19:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@oldach.net) Message-Id: <202110281519.19SFJwF0082441@nuc.oldach.net> Subject: Re: Deprecating smbfs(5) and removing it before FreeBSD 14 In-Reply-To: from Ed Maste at "28 Oct 2021 10:44:56" To: emaste@freebsd.org (Ed Maste) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:19:58 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: freebsd@oldach.net (Helge Oldach) X-No-Archive: Yes List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (nuc.oldach.net [0.0.0.0]); Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:19:58 +0200 (CEST) for IP:127.0.0.1 DOMAIN:localhost HELO:nuc.oldach.net FROM:freebsd@oldach.net RCPT: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Hg8Pg6QPqz4S1Y X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@oldach.net designates 2001:67c:1407:60::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@oldach.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.15 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[oldach.net]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.86)[-0.856]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29670, ipnet:2001:67c:1400::/45, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Spam: Yes X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Ed Maste wrote on Thu, 28 Oct 2021 16:44:56 +0200 (CEST): > The smbfs(5) filesystem supports only the obsolete SMBv1 protocol, and > I propose removing it for FreeBSD 14. I know the CHERI folks have been > using it but they plan to migrate away from it. It was broken for > months before they fixed it, so I suspect nobody is using it on > contemporary releases. I'm using SMBv1 to connect a FreeBSD VM running under VirtualBox with the host file system. This is significantly more reliable than vboxvfs - which, to name one annoying issue, still stumbles over large directories and cuts them short. SMBv1 security concerns aside - this is a local application not touching any wires or radio waves. Please don't remove it. In case the decision would be in favor of removal, please convert it into a decent, light-weight port. Kind regards Helge