From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 3 7:59: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D788F151F5 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:58:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kent@erix.ericsson.se) Received: from super.du.uab.ericsson.se (kent@super.du.uab.ericsson.se [134.138.176.16]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/WIREfire-1.5) with ESMTP id QAA29572; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 16:58:52 +0100 (MET) Received: (from kent@localhost) by super.du.uab.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/erix-1.7) id QAA26810; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 16:58:52 +0100 (MET) To: "Daniel J. O'Connor" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of swap hangs machine References: From: Kent Boortz Date: 03 Dec 1999 16:58:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Daniel J. O'Connor"'s message of "Sat, 04 Dec 1999 00:47:16 +1030 (CST)" Message-ID: Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel J. O'Connor" writes: > On 03-Dec-99 Kent Boortz wrote: > > Could someone clearify this matter? Is it my setup that allow ordinary > > users too much freedom or is this a problem with FreeBSD? > > How much swap did you give it? > > How much RAM do you have? > > It should be of the order of 2x your RAM.. I have 128 Mb of real RAM and 256 Mb swap. I increased the swap to 517 Mb to be able to run ImageMagick on the files I had (added a swap file in the file system). Made the machine almost single tasking ;-) Freezed the mouse pointer in X for some time but worked ok. I will buy more RAM but was more curious about the philosophy behind these memory problems. I thought that the kernel reserved some memory to be able to handle the situation. Is an ordinary user taking up all RAM, swap and CPU supposed to make the console unresponsive? I have to admit I forgot to check if I could ping or log in to the machine from another machine, I only checked that the console was dead. I will do that next time. kent To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message