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From: Dale Scott X-Mailer: iPad Mail (16C50) In-Reply-To: <20181219045456.enlgh43ndhglad7b@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 23:36:44 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Mailinglist Message-Id: References: <20181219045456.enlgh43ndhglad7b@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> To: Ian Zimmerman X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfJp3FXKnQYqjNY+FijwVe9ZbC4NRrMjqM5jaj2j81nO3U11Tr6S1EauEPZMoV1PER2KCMpSypkScdtHaOYvk6AYTBrr2O3o+TDROIq1OlO/DUNBZ/Pnw BFW7Fj064fFyN7uzGgQDAGwLuWMfLmhAnhuDAIc2Mjd1W5gcwiRwL9q9B4GNkBDc7IrtAMXFHA2/jp5oKMj8AIB4GbaK9yDP9xPD/s1fMeQSfp+Pzfs/dEx9 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3517C6BFC7 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=shaw.ca header.s=s20180605 header.b=HJGgjXto; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=shaw.ca; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dalescott@shaw.ca designates 64.59.134.13 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dalescott@shaw.ca X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.87 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:64.59.134.0/25]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[5]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[shaw.ca:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[shaw.ca,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[idcmail-mx1so.cg.shawcable.net,smtp.glb.shawcable.net,idcmail-mx2no.cg.shawcable.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.965,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[13.134.59.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6327, ipnet:64.59.128.0/20, country:CA]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[shaw.ca:s=s20180605]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-2.30)[ip: (-6.81), ipnet: 64.59.128.0/20(-2.55), asn: 6327(-2.04), country: CA(-0.09)]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[shaw.ca.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 06:37:01 -0000 So long as you don=E2=80=99t change the configuration defaults it probably w= on=E2=80=99t make a difference, and the eventual install of any dependencies= already installed should fail gracefully. Maybe... I=E2=80=99m also not su= re if default port configs are guaranteed to be the same configs used to bui= ld pkgs though.=20 I have to install a couple apps on my server from ports because of non-defau= lt configuration options that are needed. I flag them in pkg to leave alone w= hen I =E2=80=9Cpkg upgrade=E2=80=9D, then I update them manually. It might b= e a bigger deal if I had lots of apps to install as ports, or lots of server= s, but it=E2=80=99s ok as-is for me. Cheers, Dale > On Dec 18, 2018, at 9:54 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >=20 > I just tried to compile a port for the first time, and I tried to follow > the Handbook as closely as possible, as is fitting for a newbie. So, > after becoming root in the port directory, the first thing I tried was > "make config-recursive". And the first dialog of options was for bash. > So I guess this port has the bash port as a dependency. But I have > already installed bash as a package! If I go ahead with the build, will > a bash port be built and installed too, overwriting the package > installation - maybe with different and undesirable options? How does > this work in general? Can I mix packages and ports at all, or do I have > to commit to one framework or the other for all software installs? >=20 > Thanks for clarifications. >=20 > --=20 > Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, > if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. > To reply privately _only_ on Usenet and on broken lists > which rewrite From, fetch the TXT record for no-use.mooo.com. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g"