From owner-freebsd-arch Sun Jan 21 17:39:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2786437B400; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:39:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0M1d1O05133; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:39:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200101220139.f0M1d1O05133@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Cameron Grant" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: newpcm/kobj MFC References: <003401c0833c$39ac3f40$1004020a@darkstar> <20010121153904.B74751@citusc17.usc.edu> <200101220104.f0M142O04580@whizzo.transsys.com> <001b01c0840f$b30ea070$1004020a@darkstar> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:07:32 GMT." <001b01c0840f$b30ea070$1004020a@darkstar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:39:01 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:53:45PM -0000, Cameron Grant wrote: > > > > this is a followup to my proposal some weeks ago which recieved no > relevant > > > > commentary. > > > I'm also concerned about breaking binary compatibility. I understand > > > your reasons for wanting this, but we really shouldn't be breaking > > > binary compatibility in -stable. If we keep doing this then no third > > > party vendor is going to want to support drivers that they have to > > > update every few months. > > It would be useful perhaps to gauge the actual impact of this > > incompatability (how many people are using 3rd party sound driver?) > > before making a decision. > > to the best of my knowledge, there exist 5 drivers not in the tree now, all > of which have kobjified versions available and 4 of which will be entering > the tree soon. i know of no commercial newpcm drivers. Well, there you go. Is changing an unused API an incompatability? louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message