From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 24 13:25:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67371F30 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:25:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm13-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F945183B for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.100.116] by nm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2014 13:23:00 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.128] by tm107.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2014 13:23:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp215.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2014 13:23:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1398345780; bh=V+yjaTvBUCT8C37B8WgJ7rURa/gb859AB0ZxqbzgISY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:Date:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:References; b=ep3wg0Tm5jDRZhDQ5LaArWfvHSC5VaBP6Q72e3f1/lEmeBFdY6EzmAXQu+BzuAf5jrWnNposMTng06+LKWiLQH9Od/TiLUo8ktIoZgZCOBvdvPzku90VqetsupndbSgT5vqVK3BOj84XqTPZoSfCTCLNeZDp08pnP6SreKyrCro= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 707729.4977.bm@smtp215.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <707729.4977.bm@smtp215.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 06:23:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: JjniCeIVM1mr3tFXHTUmOOm.Zzpcgh3RnBnqc86rKIW1e06 NSTz1zDGABMgm5XHxsUBXtyAC4F8ob9oyxF3CUnVLCq._A3fdW310D2KmZwe Tvbhed8_UaPIQ9OLgoTbZN1MHx4l.eTsCkGbkMCxfKjmEW2PsO_wIB_ZlZU2 EQYXjJZtQMxnUoGPYSM0arpc_3HbEq_nEw8R1DKpmseCEnI9PtqEyCmq3fv9 cTZLUw9ev4HZC.lbM0Xjomth.j1nclADziA3BskVf9t8EOrIMHFfrGIc1qvu gRAkWPf_wL1dllZ5VhRTF1hsLs99i8zq_pykeSI6OYL_mX3zBMcq_ffogJy5 Z2DmlX8KKwEdXirjNINGqmHL5xa7GSC4TF8OW0zyfNRYZwQoKYLdQDRixYiQ lN9X.mzrAj9wsSqAYR2IzZMiPYbXtInCszf69G8VGVY2.x6ANFsIQs.mJiYT KjYzdB1KO2tdfjOsF35xjR6Qgw6lRkXh43CcHFqo_ye_lxJerTMgvXs8.Ncn mTM1Y5WDK82rgGdxsyv6wq19ESTBcRJJmuSl4gXRsDTODHPbnnOWcCXD0jUp oMDcNe2TJ24SKQuu.mqu8omd4XutwP9xgzs6pwPYy1JRR4JQ3923AZCcD7Bo FYOJzfxSEZMlWqstqYVi4JZBVk1XkkJRKiEklTLGBDpNiTG7vsg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- X-Rocket-Received: from localhost (mueller6724@96.28.178.143 with plain [98.138.105.24]) by smtp215.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2014 06:23:00 -0700 PDT From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysterious crash/freeze in X11 with newcons References: <463721.6671.bm@smtp209.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1612737.2s12IjFqAT@desktop.reztek> <457340.49110.bm@smtp114.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5358E1DC.8030509@dumbbell.fr> X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:25:58 -0000 from Jean-Sébastien Pédron with parts of my previous message: > On 17.04.2014 14:39, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > Timing of crashes/freezes and /var/log/messages indicates the > > messages were at crash time. > As Christian said, "VGA-1: EDID block 0 invalid." means that the kernel > driver couldn't understand what the monitor reported about its supported > modes. But do you use this VGA connector? > > I ran > > pkg info -a | grep "mesa" > > and got nothing, also tried with "Mesa". > Mesa is split in multiple ports. You should at least have: > graphics/libGL > graphics/dri I use HDMI connector as opposed to VGA. New motherboard has only HDMI and DisplayPort connectors for integrated graphics. pkg info -a | grep "dri" shows dri-9.1.7_3,2 OpenGL hardware acceleration drivers for the DRI dri2proto-2.8 DRI2 prototype headers xdriinfo-1.0.4 Query configuration information of DRI drivers xf86-input-keyboard-1.8.0 X.Org keyboard input driver xf86-input-mouse-1.9.0_1 X.Org mouse input driver xf86-video-ati-7.2.0_1 X.Org ati display driver xf86-video-mach64-6.9.4_1 X.Org mach64 display driver xf86-video-nv-2.1.20_2 X.Org nv display driver xf86-video-openchrome-0.3.3_1 X.Org openChrome display driver xf86-video-r128-6.9.2_1 X.Org r128 display driver xf86-video-vesa-2.3.3_1 X.Org vesa display driver xf86driproto-2.1.1 XFree86-DRI extension headers xorg-drivers-7.7 X.org drivers meta-port pkg info -a | grep "libGL" shows libGL-9.1.7 OpenGL library that renders using GLX or DRI libGLU-9.0.0 OpenGL utility library So I don't have Mesa by that name but have the parts of interest. I could check "man xorg.conf" and see what mode lines to add to xorg.conf.intel . LG monitor documentation advises 1920*1080 as preferred mode. xorg.conf.vesa doesn't work at all with newcons, immediately plunges me into darkness. Then I have to go to root command prompt and type "shutdown -r now". I wonder if FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE would be any stabler than 11-current with the new Xorg, think the problem is with Xorg getting along with FreeBSD. I really need something less crash-prone to use on a regular basis without fear of trashing the file system. On getting a root window, besides sudo, I could use su. Using uxterm or xterm, and adding parameters for geometry such as uxterm -fn 8x16 -geometry 120x52 -title whatever -e login (from IceWM) I can login as nonroot, but as root I get "login incorrect" even with the correct root password. But this worked for root login when running from OpenBSD 5.4 live USB with fvwm (liveusb-openbsd.sourceforge.net), and not from my old installation of FreeBSD 8.2 i386 with IceWM. I can find my way around IceWM better than fvwm or GNOME 3, don't like what I've seen on GNOME3 so far. I succeeded by putting, instead of "-e login", -e /bin/tcsh -c su - That would work even in a situation where exiting X immediately plunges into darkness. I still have to be careful what I type, since Ctrl-Fn (n=1,2,3 or 4) in Xfce or Ctrl-Alt-n (n=1,2,3 or 4) in IceWM changes virtual desktops, and it is easy to type Ctrl-Alt-Fn (n=1,2,3 or 4) by mistake and trash my X session unless I am using newcons with FreeBSD. Tom