From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 14 14:34:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FFADC05BD for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.home.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 758D580C05 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:34:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id vAEEYFVd057479; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:34:15 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Subject: Re: Updating Instructions To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <34bd4349-0215-5341-3f32-b8d21afbde99@columbus.rr.com> <20171114133310.GA4253@c720-r314251> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <806fdb3d-530a-3d38-2f7c-7b4c5d6fbadd@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:34:15 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171114133310.GA4253@c720-r314251> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:34:19 -0000 On 14/11/2017 13:33, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día martes, noviembre 14, 2017 a las 01:22:59p. m. +0000, Carmel NY escribió: > >> Personally, I consider "poudriere" over kill for the average user, especially >> a user who is using FreeBSD on a single PC or laptop. > > The 'average user' should either install pre-build packages or compile > ports from sources using poudriere, even if he/she does this on a single > PC or laptop. Just my humble opinions after compiling ports 15++ years > from sources. In terms of numbers, the "average user" for FreeBSD may well be a Netflix or Cloudflare(*) devop. :-) If you mean a user with uncomplicated needs, I'd agree with you. In my case I've got ten machines, with two hardware architectures, some externally visible so with more paranoid port options than in house ones. For that poudriere is wonderful. (*) ISTR they use FBSD. -- An amusing coincidence: log2(58) = 5.858 (to 0.0003% accuracy).