From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue May 22 22:19:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF110EB1B93 for ; Tue, 22 May 2018 22:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kmacybsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot0-x234.google.com (mail-ot0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53F2C6BB0F for ; Tue, 22 May 2018 22:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kmacybsd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot0-x234.google.com with SMTP id l13-v6so22867834otk.9 for ; Tue, 22 May 2018 15:19:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=NqEcYGmGQPy6IDwRjn00d0ad7C/+afDa3rnoEDGWjtk=; b=kUGEOg4Sk0JcvO3Sr2IJiN5uty/VZ/LXtJ+ZQ4nBT2X6WFUCeh8Ykwp7fIxf8f2sOq 8XIjKPqpW/Mxv0l/kTOvwFg5Ic0gPpcEl3I3QAoJqLMAiOlDfDE58zW1SrMZ2DBjWdtA o9Pa6G9U7k/ymfmPD3XSq4LVizdVMWZ+Dfo1xLH4PQqxGZU0m5RB6We856Lw1ufrkm65 +xS4jY+H90CG2oFMVp0Qz968Ui9cAeKqoNag/5Plr8+cvJngfetS8r1caBBzmKfK+I9u qy/OwI7vJ+NtDBnP+SHam58a4HVyy6o5upiNDLxS1x0xni+U514rOA8tytpn1vNqUq5S 4xVA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=NqEcYGmGQPy6IDwRjn00d0ad7C/+afDa3rnoEDGWjtk=; b=l1yQCBWuMye0RBCF6MLWI1zHHIOdwPmiFd8kd9yfPTq2W/svakE9LQSYuSjy4YyDxh d+98RxDgdJNR24URlu0mUWzOGnsCVs1UjH4OsDvqm+LOO6IJPbL6nC+hIIWKn58SepMY MJrWwppzWeGEGmQGGzWPuKevXk9LYN/HgMU/I+qpEZTd591k3LK1Sdn11bLVBR9fJZon jv9j/cbRE+okIkX9IOLweUNJ+McOWK57kNeiaCT4+p9HmOi7+EUQIPJ0tjFNigtDNkBD EPOZuel/RKqq9LYB9Pmv5nTxZcPIJHTuTN1VIqdslVNQg57+bhWL72j1GajSqE7WRVMx bTAw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdit5BopSHBLdX8wWAaNyASAkePoBF5QUxSHKJmcdY4XmUGU+of 6qCI6AfCOfJmn2YQio7zg6Vhe+xFJnYZ0RYQFhBRxg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZoPFJ7FF31bGrhjh1ZHVW4xh1A+Hkk1i/yrdUubF1Eff5Y2dNwgu11MvGqZKSb0wF52huZaMFZL5mqYcAV7cI0= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:2bec:: with SMTP id u99-v6mr204681ota.355.1527027584592; Tue, 22 May 2018 15:19:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kmacybsd@gmail.com Received: by 2002:a9d:3f0:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 22 May 2018 15:19:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201805222212.w4MMCdA9031937@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> References: <201805222212.w4MMCdA9031937@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: "K. Macy" Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 15:19:44 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: H__e_xSXVagkjqoAwS6BHW9CL_E Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: "A. Wilcox" , FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 22:19:45 -0000 > I am concerned about just shoving it out to ports, as that makes > it rot even faster. > > I am still very concerned that our in base i9xx code is like 4 > years old and everyone is told to go to kmod-next from ports > as well. > > No, I do not have a solution, but I have not tried hard to find > one. I am sure if we try hard to find one it can be done. drm-next is a port and it's what most everyone will be using going forward. You're asking us to make a special case for a small vocal group of i386 users. If i386 is sufficiently important, its user base can support it. Cheers. -M