From nobody Mon Feb 14 06:27:07 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530C319C69B3 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 06:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d90005593fde.2d22632f42eccd0e37f701dda9da0922@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JxvQc25cvz3n81 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 06:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d90005593fde.2d22632f42eccd0e37f701dda9da0922@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1644820040; x=1647412040; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=AlwvnOXAepnOOAxPhtLWRpbe7YXXqFKD3+X1TZwMFfY=; b=ZvaRNz38tEBSTozqjTY3BBFBbRRwzJn9gAUGE4dUhpcBGCEMEsmbvai/d0CIzXi1wq1PgGJPhOykAxTjXE+kscLt41/ForkRdlGXaLt8PFMj17q0LVatInsPDC8HhrGr8EnciB59pyY/eFOWH5VnK/xcvuT9B8F3Dlr4J2wFh0M= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRkOTAwMDU1OTNmZGUucXVlc3Rpb25zPWZyZWVic2Qub3Jn Received: from r2.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r2.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.190.2]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 14 Feb 2022 01:27:11 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 14 Feb 2022 01:27:09 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1nJUpH-0009Tg-JX; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 06:27:07 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 06:27:07 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: David Christensen Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 12.3-R and environment variables Message-Id: <20220214062707.72732d6d5438bc7d0b7d61ce@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20220214.060421.2204344428991538671.yasu@utahime.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4JxvQc25cvz3n81 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=ZvaRNz38; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4d90005593fde.2d22632f42eccd0e37f701dda9da0922@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4d90005593fde.2d22632f42eccd0e37f701dda9da0922@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.190.2:received]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d90005593fde.2d22632f42eccd0e37f701dda9da0922@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d90005593fde.2d22632f42eccd0e37f701dda9da0922@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 13:42:01 -0800 David Christensen wrote: > That is unexpected. I would expect the packages for 12.3-RELEASE to be > built on 12.3-RELEASE. FreeBSD promises ABI stability within each major release - the only time I can recall that slipping (I've been using FreeBSD since 1.1 - but I did skip 5, 6 and 7 which suffered the fallout from Walnut Creek pulling out) was in 12.1 when there was an unintended ABI change involving DRM which caused upgrade problems and is the reason 12.x packages (note 12.x not 12.3, packages are for the entire life of the major release) are built on 12.2 and not 12.0 as would be normal. This sort of philosophy of stability is one of the reasons I prefer FreeBSD to any Linux based system. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith