From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jun 8 15:46:35 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EC4333D9E for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 15:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49gd0C0tgNz3Zkb for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 15:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ABFB54E669; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 10:46:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: freebsd vs. netbsd To: dwilde1@gmail.com Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <171506d5-19aa-359e-c21d-f07257c52ebd@freenetMail.de> <62d10000-e068-922e-23bd-f7a61e7a4e89@anatoli.ws> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <637eed20-1326-dabf-ac9d-fac12a9dbaa5@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 10:46:34 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49gd0C0tgNz3Zkb X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.92 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.71)[-0.709]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.32)[-0.316]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.00)[0.004]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2020 15:46:35 -0000 On 2020-06-08 09:29, Donald Wilde wrote: > On 6/8/20, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> >>> On Jun 7, 2020, at 11:26 PM, Anatoli wrote: >>> >>> IMO >>> >>> * FreeBSD: servers (performance, stability, relative security, zfs), >>> competes directly with Linux >>> >>> * OpenBSD: routers/firewalls, desktops (the most secure OS >> >> The most secureā€¦ if you dismiss the fact that one of the developer (who >> wrote network stack if my memory serves me) was simultaneously receiving >> payments from one of three letter agencies for several years. >> > The OpenBSD crew made major contributions to the FOSS community in SSH > and SSH components, but everybody incorporates them so they are now > all at the same level. This is absolute truth for me and I appreciate that fact since forever. Valeri > > The main remaining difference is that OpenBSD doesn't turn on > _anything_ unless you specifically ask it to. > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++