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Date:      Thu, 6 Jul 2017 10:09:04 -0400
From:      Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com>
To:        Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD did it again (still)
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On 07/06/17 09:46, Warren Block wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Jul 2017, Baho Utot wrote:
> 
>> Well FYI the upgrade base 10.1 to 11.0-p10 when as expected. Update 
>> the ports to the current quarterly was a tragic happening.  I have 
>> done this before upgrade a desktop from 10.3 to 11.0-p0 then to 
>> 11.0-p9.  Again the ports just did not work as it resulted in a broken 
>> desktop each time.  I started using the quarterly ports branch 
>> thinking I get some stablilty.  No stability to be found.  Should I 
>> user be able to update without going thru a weeks worth of debugging?  
>> I think that is not too much to ask.
> 
> It might or might not be obvious, but after going from FreeBSD 10 to 11 
> all ports must be reinstalled.  It is not possible to upgrade only some 
> ports without mysterious breakages.

This was the process:

1.	Checkout base 11.0 releng
2.	Build and install
3.	Reboot
4.	checkout latest port quarterly branch
5.	rsync --verbose --archive --recursive --delete ${source}/ /usr/ports/
6.	synth just-build ${home}/port.list
7.	synth rebuild-repository
8.	pkg update
9.	pkg upgrade
10.	fix/patch changes from UPDATING and the "spew" from pkg upgrade
11.	reboot
12.	login
13.	startx ---> crash and burn

Now what part of that is so broken to result in a useless/broken desktop 
system.

I would expect that to result in a working desktop, at the least.

Yes I understand if some app is broken that runs under lumina but I 
fully expect lumina to just run and not just crash.



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