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Date:      Thu, 8 Feb 2018 23:18:31 -0200
From:      Le Baron =?utf-8?B?ZOKAmU1lcmRl?= <lbdm@privacychain.ch>
To:        Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>
Cc:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Palemoon branding violation
Message-ID:  <20180209011831.aqktmmvbb7zf5zvt@privacychain.ch>
In-Reply-To: <115bd5c3-7759-b086-804a-a0bcc0336857@sorbs.net>
References:  <20180206222137.GA78935@skeletor.feld.me> <A905406A-5097-489C-8C95-764870F11F3B@kreme.com> <20180207092827.GA81527@home.opsec.eu> <CANYZJQY=7Lk60khQRjR8H8jLcCaasut8R6f%2B9fgyhDvxD6=RdQ@mail.gmail.com> <fe353ecd-90ce-9f05-900a-2cdd054f5236@sorbs.net> <alpine.BSF.2.21.1802081035280.50080@aneurin.horsfall.org> <652bf20e-3d99-b522-a413-a9ab53a8b0c2@sorbs.net> <1B1944BD-C232-4841-9C6D-D0011B9C7069@kreme.com> <115bd5c3-7759-b086-804a-a0bcc0336857@sorbs.net>

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That also depends on the jurisdiction. Sweden, seems to be the case.

Un-registered trademarks has almost no protection in my country (not sweden) for
instance. It is possible to win a legal dispute for a un-registered trademark in some situations in here, if one can proof an
early actual commercial use of that trademark BUT that involve a very long legal
battle.

Based on US practice (IIRC) ™ for un-registred trademarks and ® for registred. I guess
the un-registred trademark must carry the ™ thing to be enforced, but I am not sure.

Just 2c.


On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 11:52:16AM +1100, Michelle Sullivan wrote:
> LuKreme wrote:
> > On Feb 7, 2018, at 20:06, Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net> wrote:
> > > Just saying telling people not to call the product the same as the trademark if there are any changes to the product is the way to protect the trademark.
> > But is there a trademark? It seems not from an earlier post.
> > 
> Don't know - Trademarks don't always have to be registered to be a
> Trademark... a Registered Trademark can carry the symbol and has had all the
> due diligence done so its more 'protectable' but the lack of the
> registration doesn't make it 'not a trademark' just that it's not as
> defensible for violations.
> 
> Michelle
> 
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Best Regards.
LBdM.



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