From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 19 07:01:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6320C1065694; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227808FC14; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk2 with SMTP id 2so399818pzk.13 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 00:01:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Ah6AEs2CARKif3dXnOiMI1PU7QDqmn21iEZg7g67YOQ=; b=QN7LTqzdjIwKXq7Xk/w+6jnfsrTdgAFge3MVyjbdRbWsRtSz5+YdtOQRr6RnR0sCIO VoimQJWx88cKMXw4fqE0nfhstpfcGKezLAvCmcPzQoRfm8C/MOUxEfpQIexqG0LvrV/a S9ly3667+XVY2aMLZiKJPTqorhK+gZcATsTuQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=pAKEQmHVECY4N+ndV+AkRBd7NDW0nHrIuAcW9zAUmXSy3I9hLtHTnAY1IkmQe/I8L7 28bAnsX55wFXBNZLILxnqeSxQh5uMxfoABKf2d4E6UfIM3eJ/3CBNtTg9DwZRFZF8aOb D7MR70zy204McMQZBYZVPxOdQdVkOyHgTNyrw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.29.1 with SMTP id g1mr4295383wfj.83.1287470233507; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.165.2 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:37:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C9389BC.7090300@FreeBSD.org> <20101018152338.GA6540@freebsd.org> <20101018152803.GA8679@freebsd.org> <20101018183645.GA33114@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:37:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: Jack Vogel To: Garrett Cooper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Alexander Best , Jakub Lach , Andriy Gapon , Alex Dupre , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regarding pciids X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:01:32 -0000 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Alexander Best > wrote: > > On Mon Oct 18 10, Garrett Cooper wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Alexander Best > wrote: > >> > On Mon Oct 18 10, Alexander Best wrote: > >> >> On Fri Sep 17 10, Alex Dupre wrote: > >> >> > I created hackish scripts to generate pci_vendors file from Boemler > and > >> >> > Mares (pciids.sf.net) lists. I haven't found the Hart list. > >> >> > > >> >> > The results of the scripts are here: > >> >> > >> >> sorry it seems i missed your post back then. > >> >> > >> >> i found two more lists: > >> >> > >> >> http://rh-software.com/downloads/pcidevs.txt > >> >> and > >> >> http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-browse.php?dir=/pub/incoming (seems to be > based on the > >> >> Hart list) > >> >> > >> >> the actual Hart list seems to have vanished and the web location is > no longer > >> >> accessible. > >> >> > >> >> personally i don't think it's necessary to combine the data of two > files. the > >> >> mares database seems extremely elaborate. all my pci devices get > described > >> >> properly. also making use of only one databse would make it more easy > to submit > >> >> additional info back to the vendor. > >> >> > >> >> so any objections to switching to the mares list? > >> >> > >> >> cheers. > >> >> alex > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > http://www.alexdupre.com/pci_vendors/mares.txt > >> >> > http://www.alexdupre.com/pci_vendors/boemler.txt > >> >> > http://www.alexdupre.com/pci_vendors/mares-boemler.txt > >> >> > http://www.alexdupre.com/pci_vendors/boemler-mares.txt > >> >> > > >> >> > The first two are generated from single lists, the last two are > >> >> > combined, with different preference order. > >> > > >> > oh...and i think it would be a good idea to move from ";" as comment > character > >> > to "#". that way we wouldn't need to run a script, but could include > the vendor > >> > file directly into the src tree. > >> > >> I noted this a while back to Warner and Brooke as I came up with a > >> short script to do this, and they suggested that it be supplemented to > >> the existing list, not replace it. > > > > why? the mares list is obviosly superior, because linux contributes to it > and > > thus has far more people submitting changes than any other list. > > > > is there a case where the old list has an entry the mares list is > missing? > > Most of the values (above 99%) were the same actually between the > 2 lists. I think the point was to avoid churn in the description > fields because a lot of the description fields were different, the > Linux list was produced by questionable sources (IIRC the other list > was produced by vendors, but I could be wrong). Rather than guessing I > would just ask Brookes and Warner directly though, offlist... > Cheers, > -Garrett > Questionable, you mean like Intel? :) I brought this up in the first place asking because our new ID's go direct into the sf list. I understand the desire to avoid churn, but I suspect this would be a change for the longer term good. Just my .02 Jack