From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 15 13:33:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0010C436B8 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 13:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd_atog@comcast.net) Received: from resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Organization Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0C0218A9 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 13:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd_atog@comcast.net) Received: from resomta-ch2-16v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.112]) by resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id 6dqvclFgk8GkC6drCcSbQS; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 13:33:02 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1479216782; bh=kk9YyMZPYlP+/j/6Ka4gEosY6Z0Q3nm/LVSLYuneBro=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=svL/GTt0oUg3Un9WIzS3UyBxIhAwmixdGZRbHLLuLAZDRy9qR2/iyq/NVDasuf2VN Hrr1NX4cTSr1keoog1+qKyLODCQdjJd2cOCWx9RQH3oIY/Sg8cNAac8iCpF54kAz/4 PF+4prJcYRo7yhzZeptyf3gE89btbrlG5arMSniL7yVkXejZCksIRuJ3JnHMC5tcrt PARPYKrADB5OFLs4mxeaoXhJWz0lDNmHEDBNzb2CAJqUS89n/FjNBeVT1IQwvJMpco iv2+obGEKKqxtPC9sqil83jXrlZYvAMPr8uUjFMRAxwjBhskiPpcBBW08e7xARlK5z PYnLagwsBvCAg== Received: from KoggyBSD.org ([68.60.93.182]) by resomta-ch2-16v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id 6drAcJFA8VBj26drCciBV8; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 13:33:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:35:12 -0500 From: Allen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hello - i5 processors and,Nvidia GPUs Message-ID: <20161115093512.60e3597c@KoggyBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; i386-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfESPu0yoI2pJTO/Ou9TZlKR4vGyEYzumohUgFb/sppBYmCOArPED6DZYZKoA6IVjUlywxscH/AgedSYPW3/g3l7vRWCUzPmRdaRen1VWNXfdist5QKy4 Kjgiu4cTQZPQ3jColEcMlK+DiYVHx3K9zJ98rpqSQEYHBOSVuOvleptAgUUYESt23r6/VjuLe83+4Q== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 13:33:05 -0000 > > PS > May I make a suggestion? why does not the FreeBSD project sell > > computers that are fully compatible with FreeBSD. The proceeds > > would go straight to the project to fund + r&d. Just an idea. I > > would certainly buy a computer from you guys. The confusion > > surrounding compatibilities etc is mind boggling. It does not have > > to be this way. It could be so much simpler, I think. Well, i am > > not an expert so maybe I am talking nonsense. I just wanted to pop in here real quick and add something to that: iX Systems. They're the main company that I know of that actually sells machines with BSD on them. Just check out the iX Systems page, and look through the products they offer. I don't work for them and so I feel no shame in giving them a Thumbs up and a free Plug on my end, and I've seen their work before, and I respect them. I go to the FreeBSD Mall when I'm ordering stuff I want for BSD related things, and also, if you're a fan of Slackware Linux, they are also the "back end" of that as well. I first learned about this years ago when I had a particularly large order from both The FreeBSD Mall, and the Slackware Store, and though I had already suspected they were very close, being that FreeBSD CD and or DVD sets look almost exactly like Slackware ones do (I've been buying from this company for a long time, and you tend to notice things like this) and seeing the Slackware CD set I bought looking a lot like the FreeBSD CD Sets I'd bought, was only a small part of it, but one day, the large order I'm talking about, I'd paid extra to get my things overnighted to me so I could get my stuff quicker, and the next day, I had a very large box on my Porch, and inside were BOTH my FreeBSD Mall Purchases, and my Slackware Store Purchases, all in the same box, and with all of the things I ordered. Oh, by the way; I also use that site to order my copies of BSD Magazine, which I love dearly, and Mouse Pads, Shirts, Boxers, basically everything. I also got my Copy of Marshal Kirk McKusick's DVD as well, which I HIGHLY Recommend to ANYONE with even the slightest interest in the History of BSD and Unix in general, and I Love watching it. It's entertaining how he goes about it, and very well done. It's basically a recorded speach he did at a BSD Con, and I highly recommend it. If you can't find it, just look for his Web Site, as I know he sells them from his site now. So you shouldn't have any problems finding it. I actually received a phone call the last time I ordered some things from the FreeBSD Mall, because they had run out of one of the things I ordered, and not only did they call to apologize for running out, but they asked me what I wanted to make things right. To say that I was amazed doesn't even come close; Most online Companies wouldn't have even bothered to try, and when I told the girl that called me that she could just put whatever she wanted in there, I didn't expect the amount of stuff I got; I'm not even sure what it was now that they had run out of, but in place of that item, she sent me a bunch of things to make up for it. I felt bad for getting so much stuff over that because I'm pretty sure it was simply an issue of BSD Magazine that they had sold out of, and BSD Magazine normally costs more than 10 dollars per issue, and they had a bunch of them on sale, which, I think they may still be on sale, for VERY cheap, and, to make up for one issue, I got a bunch of FreeBSD and PC-BSD Stickers, which I love, and then, I got some FreeBSD Bumper Stickers as well, and then, I got some Case Stickers (The ones that are the size of the Intel Inside, or "Made for Windows whatever" and so on) and so I ended up getting LOTS of Stickers, which is great, and then, I got the Bumper Stickers, and then, I got a new Bracelet that says FreeBSD, and a few other things. But the point is, they went above and beyond anything I thought necessary, and they apologized, and all around, this was one of the first times I've ever had to choose something else because they had run out of stock, and I spend a decent amount of Money on both stores, so I've got plenty of experience with them, and I've always had a great experience and been treated very well. In short; Check out iX Systems, and you'll see they have a decent amount of Hardware. I do not know for certain if they are still selling Workstations, but the Servers they sell, are VERY reasonably priced machines, and I personally have been trying to get one myself. There's very good Ads in BSD Magazine for their Company, and the only reason I'm not sure about Workstations, is that the last time I looked, I couldn't find any Workstations for sale, but was told they did still have some for sale, so if you're serious about this, check them out, and see what they have, and even if you end up buying a low end Server, it will not only serve you well, but you can rest assured that EVERY piece of Hardware in that machine, will be built with BSD in mind. Also; Don't forget that they are the company that backs up PC-BSD, which is FreeBSD with a nice pain job, some nice GUI easy to use tools, and a PBI System that even Microsoft could learn a few things from. Sorry for the length of the post but it's mighty hard to run out of good things to say about iX Systems. -Allen > Ah, FreeBSD is essentially a server. It works nicely as a desktop, > but this needs some time and user skills. For making available a new > and retailed computer that works out-of-the-box, I have set up a > website last month. You can have a look at my website. If you like my > website, I shall be delighted to honour you as my first customer. I > offer free 24x7 support.