From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 14 18:06:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE6F16A47E; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3882A13C4BD; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup85.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.85]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l0EHodoE001735 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:50:47 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0EHnTPS002359; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:49:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l0EHnTwx002358; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:49:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:49:29 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Hiroki Sato Message-ID: <20070114174928.GD1667@kobe.laptop> References: <20070113125711.GB16664@soaustin.net> <20070114033349.GB2734@kobe.laptop> <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> <20070115.000907.32439009.hrs@allbsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070115.000907.32439009.hrs@allbsd.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.727, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.47, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: linimon@lonesome.com, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, blackend@FreeBSD.org, wes@opensail.org Subject: Re: Slides, papers, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:06:49 -0000 On 2007-01-15 00:09, Hiroki Sato wrote: > bl> gker> Now, if we can find a nice way to attach a nicely designed, > bl> gker> professional looking CSS stylesheet to these slide > bl> gker> collections, that would be great! If we can also get > bl> gker> someone who is experienced with DocBook/XML-slides to write > bl> gker> up a short "Internationalization Cookbook for FreeBSD > bl> gker> slides" tutorial, we would really have something going :) > bl> gker> > bl> > bl> Maybe Murray can help a bit on this (Cced). I'm not against the > bl> fact we also could use Beamer for some presentations with the > bl> advantage of a very nice rendering, easy to learn, text source > bl> files, pdf rendering and buildable with the current full docproj > bl> installation. On another hand I know OOo can export files to > bl> DocBook but I don't know if it can be directly useable in our > bl> DocBook/XML-slides environment. > > Well, what do you think about simply importing FreeBSD-related > presentation materials into the doc tree for the moment like OpenBSD > project does? That's an excellent idea, and I would really like to see it happen. I was only worried that this would 'bloat' the CVS repository, if we started importing large collections of binary files. > I often think we should have such a collection of presentations in our > web site if possible, too, but often forget the URLs or get "404 not > found" if I find them. > > I think we can store them into doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides in the > original format and create the "collection of presentations" page. > Converting them to another format is generally difficult and it is > not a good idea to force the authors to use DocBook-slides or so. Agreed. "Forcing" people to convert existing material puts additional work on them, and it's not a good thing unless we have a sufficiently large set of benefits to gain from the conversion to DocBook/XML-slides. I am not sufficiently experienced with DocBook/slides to decide if the additional work is too much. If it is, we may as well bite the bullet and commit the originals into CVS "as is".