From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 19 19:58:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FB7106566B; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:58:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E897F8FC1E; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.30.101.53] ([209.117.142.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pBJJr2Dj051222 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:53:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:52:56 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0CAA5754-4FAC-4B87-92B7-439B109473C0@bsdimp.com> References: <201111291946.pATJkHMs064094@svn.freebsd.org> <4ED544E1.3050307@t-hosting.hu> <4ED545A9.8000304@FreeBSD.org> To: Garrett Cooper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (harmony.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.6]); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:53:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: Doug Barton , Max Khon , svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor_K=F6vesd=E1n?= , svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r228143 - in head: . share/mk tools/build/options X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:58:54 -0000 On Nov 29, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > 2011/11/29 Doug Barton : >> On 11/29/2011 12:47, G=E1bor K=F6vesd=E1n wrote: >>> On 2011.11.29. 20:46, Max Khon wrote: >>>> Log: >>>> Turn off profiled libs build by default. >>>> Can be enabled back using WITH_PROFILE=3Dyes in /etc/src.conf >>> I think it was useful. Profiling is useful for developing any piece = of >>> software that builds on libc or other common libs, even for software >>> that is not directly related to FreeBSD. I think it should be = reverted. >>=20 >> Since we ask users to read -current, it would be useful if our >> developers did too. :) >>=20 >> As Max pointed out in his message about this, the profiled libs are = only >> really useful to a tiny percentage of developers. If you need them, >> twist the knob. Building them should be off by default. >=20 > +1. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. As suggested > elsewhere, I think it would also be a good idea to enable it in > tinderbox builds. -1. The needs of the many? Please. Let's break a useful feature = because some people don't understand it and are impatient? That's lame. Enabling it only on tinderbox builds will ensure more accidental = breakage. Warner