From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 11 12:43:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABE41065670 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C688FC0C for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl22-219.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.149.219]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mBBCgn5W001974 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:42:55 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mBBCgnwN006407; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:42:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mBBCglqQ006406; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:42:47 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jonathan McKeown References: <493DA269.2070805@FreeBSD.org> <200812110837.26316.jonathan+freebsd-hackers@hst.org.za> <87prjzw156.fsf@kobe.laptop> <200812111052.50082.jonathan@hst.org.za> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:42:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200812111052.50082.jonathan@hst.org.za> (Jonathan McKeown's message of "Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:52:49 +0200") Message-ID: <87r64eopbt.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mBBCgn5W001974 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.297, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.10, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Jonathan McKeown Subject: Re: Enhancing cdboot [patch for review] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:43:04 -0000 On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:52:49 +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: >> cdboot runs long after the prompt for BIOS setup. I don't think we >> can modify cdboot to add serial console support to systems whose BIOS >> setup doesn't support it. > > Sorry, of course you're right: I'm talking nonsense. > > It's the stage immediately after that that isn't available. I wish I > could remember why I thought that had caused me a problem once. > > Certainly there's a big chunk of the boot process that is accessible > through a serial console on a disk-based boot that's not available on > a serial-console boot. I'm still not sure what sort of `serial console boot' we are talking about here. What's the difference between a `serial console on a disk-based boot' and a `serial console boot'?