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Date:      Sun, 1 Feb 1998 12:03:25 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Andreas Klemm <andreas@klemm.gtn.com>
Cc:        Alan Batie <batie@agora.rdrop.com>, John Kelly <jak@cetlink.net>, jack@germanium.xtalwind.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Sendmail - low on space
Message-ID:  <19980201120325.14137@lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <19980201011332.58317@klemm.gtn.com>; from Andreas Klemm on Sun, Feb 01, 1998 at 01:13:32AM %2B0100
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980127222325.9843C-100000@germanium.xtalwind.net> <34d4bf15.15742383@mail.cetlink.net> <19980127222309.17450@agora.rdrop.com> <19980201011332.58317@klemm.gtn.com>

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On Sun, Feb 01, 1998 at 01:13:32AM +0100, Andreas Klemm wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 1998 at 10:23:09PM -0800, Alan Batie wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 1998 at 05:22:44AM +0000, John Kelly wrote:
>>>>> I see little benefit in a partition dedicated to /var.
>>>>
>>>> I do.  I like the fact that the / partition, with the critical system
>>>> files, is not written to each time a log entry is made
>>>
>>> Please read the message again.  Root (/) will still have its own
>>> parition.  The separate /var partition is the one we're suggesting to
>>> eliminate by consolidating it inside /usr.
>>
>> The same applies to /usr; if you want to combine filesystems, combine
>> / and /usr; /var is highly dynamic, whereas without too much trouble
>   ^^^^^^^^^^
>> / and /usr could be made R/O, which would greatly simplify upgrades.
>
> but then /usr/local should become a separate filesystem ...
> /usr/local is highly dynamic as well, if you work with ports.

Working with ports doesn't mean installing new ones every day.  I
"work with ports" too, but it's been 9 days since I changed
/usr/local/bin.   I wouldn't call that "highly dynamic".

I think it depends a lot on your installation.  I still see little
benefit in three partitions on a single disk.  The idea of a read-only
root file system and no separate /usr isn't bad, though.  Sadly,
though you can "update" a mount from read-only to write (for example,
to add a port), you can't "update" it back to read-only.  I suppose
this is a thing we should improve on.

Greg



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