From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 11 00:35:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494F816A4CF for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:35:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ritamari.vonostingroup.com (ip193-230.digitalrealm.net [216.144.193.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B65143D5A for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:35:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@tvog.net) Received: from pcp01940037pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net ([68.32.91.204] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by ritamari.vonostingroup.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1CzOlj-0001FB-Fm; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:34:47 -0500 Message-ID: <420BFDCF.1000409@tvog.net> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:35:27 -0500 From: "Frank J. Laszlo" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr References: <200502092223.01650.algould@datawok.com> <1905317067.20050210103050@wanadoo.fr> <894943359.20050210150947@wanadoo.fr> <420B6D42.9090203@tvog.net> <771446868.20050210210639@wanadoo.fr> <420BDBA1.4050601@tvog.net> <1661596661.20050210234947@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1661596661.20050210234947@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ritamari.vonostingroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tvog.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such asNetBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:35:15 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: >Frank Laszlo writes: > > > >>Yes, Process colors being 4 plates, but rendered properly, it could be >>less. >> >> > >All process printing requires four (or six) colors. That's what process >means. > > > >>The current "logo" as it is shown on freebsd.org, COULD be printed on 2 >>plates, as a 2 color job. those colors being black and red. >> >> > >Possibly. It would still look odd, though. > > > >>This isnt an issue with todays modern digital 4 color presses such as >>the iGen3. >> >> > >It's an issue with any press. Digital presses have less trouble with >registration, but they aren't any better at getting the line frequencies >higher. Indeed, normal offset provides higher frequencies. > > > >>It has no problem with registration if ran by a qualified >>operator. Now if you are a 80's or 90's printer using an old heidelburg >>2 color press, sure.. registration is very difficult when dealing with >>small print and screens. >> >> > >What sort of printer would FreeBSD best be able to afford? > > Well, I'm not going into budget issues, but yes you have a point here. I am open to quote any print job if the FreeBSD Foundation so chooses to do official corporate print work. e.g. letterhead, business cards, printed manuals, etc.. I would of course give my normal discount as I do with any other non-profit organizations. > > >>Furthermore, anyone with experience in the modern printing world knows >>that getting high quality (and affordable) printed artwork on a small >>piece is very simple when using the right equipment. >> >> > >It doesn't matter what equipment you use. Small artwork with lots of >fine detail reduces poorly; if it contains halftones, it reduces even >more poorly. > > > Who says it has to be small? and how small are you talking for print work? on a CD? thats not very small IMHO. One should be able to attain excellent quality at that size. I consider "small" artwork to be < 1in. >>I've done several of these type of jobs on the iGen3 we have here at >>my office. Anyways, this is WAY off from the original post, So I end >>it with that. >> >> > >Actually it is highly relevant, since a key reason for developing a >simple logo is to make it easy to display and print. > > Getting back to the point at hand, the beastie is nothing more than a mascot. plain and simple. But people are talking like there will be no more beastie representing FreeBSD. I dont think this is the point. Also, whoever started that petition needs to actually get some inside information other than a "non publicized" (sp?) anouncement. The true intention of this logo contest is likely to give more of a corporate identity to freebsd as a whole. I am now done with this thread. Once again, I will end it. (hopefully) :) Kind Regards, Frank Laszlo