From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 13 13:12:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6011065676 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markiyan.kushnir@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE0A8FC1A for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcje9 with SMTP id je9so525842bkc.13 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:12:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=osMWy/XRWXg6rfvmBsx6yKZUiJxXB0eqfFgCoJEHwGw=; b=sLf/IyyfpyvURqSozyoIT8/RmJE6PXhV+fWzimGLDGQNd11KtoivpbQeSiKDd7GJ8Y kPkUcdToFSTfbbLJkVWR+fIazxjcWUnA5b2L6ZgM/GxUS9EvpqFFusuSwA0sGVWc7e3b EknK6/jnOrkyoxwIkE2go2asEUZN/sQt0/xzWSGPNHhCJu89dCUdd/EaQr2DD1ZoiUiF oRfVBx8kd7sAbIYC8k6qEjordbQo/b8E7UGxFbuW8tWmKwYdXMeY7NfDf00ucVTWYNDU ez8w5xvtN8t6TAuIl9i1Hoap2ZKpuxNJMFD6+jWM2teUYcp9/2f8C+uo9s+duZYNOSeE jbeA== Received: by 10.204.128.68 with SMTP id j4mr989038bks.122.1347541922553; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mkushnir.zapto.org (152-2-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net. [178.95.2.152]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n5sm14326059bkv.14.2012.09.13.06.11.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5051DB64.4050504@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:11:00 +0300 From: Markiyan Kushnir User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120222 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?RGFnLUVybGluZyBTbcO4cmdyYXY=?= References: <505187E4.6060404@gmail.com> <86ehm65guf.fsf@ds4.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86ehm65guf.fsf@ds4.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing CVS from HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:12:04 -0000 On 13.09.2012 13:59, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav wrote: > Markiyan Kushnir writes: >> As a desktop user, I'm OK with the idea. However I have a concern on >> using csup after Feb 2013. In my "custom upgrade" scenario (I use it >> on my desktops, almost fully automated), I start with, roughly: >> >> % pkg_delete -adf >> % [some extra cleanup] >> % csup >> % [build and install the base system] >> % [build and install my batch of ports] >> >> After pkg_delete I have a clean base system "old" release, and at this= >> point I'm able to update the base source tree before I proceed with >> the building of the new world/kernel. After Feb, 2013 I wouldn't be >> able to do it. [...] Do you have suggestions how I could adjust my >> scenario to update /usr/src the new way? > > If I understand correctly, this is the procedure you use to upgrade fro= m > one release to another? I would recommend sticking with binary release= s > and using freebsd-update(8) to update and upgrade. If you really want = a > source tree, however, you can get one using svn. > > DES For my desktop needs I would normally want binary releases. However I=20 like the freedom to upgrade to whatever I want, and the ability to tweak = my "upgrade" scenario with things like switching gcc/clang, or=20 customizing the kernel. I think I can replace csup with freebsd-update/portsnap pair for=20 upgrading the src and ports trees only, and still be able to build=20 everything from sources. -- Markiyan.