From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 22 07:17:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA00670 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 07:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA00665 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 07:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04808; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:17:00 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:17:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199707221417.IAA04808@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Andreas Klemm Cc: Nate Williams , Warner Losh , Terry Lambert , sthaug@nethelp.no, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail complains about being unable to write his pid file In-Reply-To: <19970722073711.20412@gtn.com> References: <199707212106.OAA11898@phaeton.artisoft.com> <199707212214.QAA02162@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19970722073711.20412@gtn.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Files owned by root are harder to change via NFS.... > > > > Ahh, you said the dirty word, NFS. NFS stands for 'No Freaking > > Security', so if you're using NFS, you've already given up any chance of > > security. ... > Or are you arguing, there is no reason to make it any better > secure, by changing file permissions, because you think it's > insecure(tm) ?! ;-)) Yep. Changing the locks on the back-door of your house while leaving the front-door wide open is a false sense of security. Nate