From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Fri Sep 25 22:20:43 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FC43E6A61; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 22:20:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mjguzik@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x342.google.com (mail-wm1-x342.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::342]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BymZg0K73z4fb2; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 22:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mjguzik@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x342.google.com with SMTP id e11so291085wme.0; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 15:20:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dJLXclyySzlKoGwpEA5XwkNoBtaRgx/CwnR2Pau91ao=; b=DdoYs0OU6yVImV2XKxaLaVnswXxNfhH2yWX71Qo1TV8yjfjWc6WZxsj0CXEypfcqKc a1Jqu/3nrGv3iT7Edp8haEUXDPIVnjP1inwp20vxe5sTsaDpFGWzOIlHwrZOhqEvGg3U iwZIDpM04Daqwm8Nu1YAdtRlhjx6IvpgHFzJMa6ETl38tOYfgOI47roA84433WruFMlm tYZCYdWiNkcUsPotTSH5Hh/GLOT/0ZkcuhUCZWAylbgZH7f3H9mD6CHcsVGjfFUQ1/E8 Q9vPZKEXmMtENOIYtB/wFC5H6RepH4zA/c/QRbEEsJgLT+czHKamMgqz+FxNjjP1lbt9 I5gg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dJLXclyySzlKoGwpEA5XwkNoBtaRgx/CwnR2Pau91ao=; b=Zbmy5Onm1lQfsOpMv90lfypZJUkvBFGATnbsTQUSmR6e+Irn8P4qBEok+e1/qXkUnj +u3fQUjHP0/ghGpD+wQo9KzXlPS7b5gSc2X3j0PEkfDYjEPWDIQ5ZK/60YB9qdeZLhQ2 rzTuG0A1C1xVYT/rQkPuwau0fgGjncjJlegSRopioW56BJCYbsIn2E+oJ7TprxZh6UBO iWEP1tLkSRRB7wfmpERQ+W3VQJlyx4KDUMgBbcOeOCdNBwgjg1iSO13OOo5kC60CVaW6 mEAN4bJTQQBnq4WEYoHmnajkj71dN3v9i6u93CLghnPYoWIL6KwxpMU71FA+A81lHq/H Pgzg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533KFzXSYOU/YtlEnHsZBoGE5EE65X1H23yLCuEWunoQnegtWYmj z7vRpm3cLcjIQKYRCaYJbAoQ72qAcSB999Tj2ytGnpNMNYk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzF1kXkGLaMtFQisrN+cNXqNyv4/TkvE2Gi1BkW7RcIFwxmZk+b4DfFg+aagcbrLYVwFJ0Wzcu01fpK3rpUPR0= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:2905:: with SMTP id p5mr656305wmp.187.1601072440959; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 15:20:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6000:187:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 15:20:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4e8b729665b9af8092c36bbf77f4de208d781fbb.camel@freebsd.org> References: <7CEB4168-005D-4C1B-9988-662BA1883EC0@freebsd.org> <4e8b729665b9af8092c36bbf77f4de208d781fbb.camel@freebsd.org> From: Mateusz Guzik Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 00:20:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r365643 - head/bin/cp To: Ian Lepore Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Edward_Tomasz_Napiera=C5=82a?= , rgrimes@freebsd.org, src-committers , svn-src-all , svn-src-head Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BymZg0K73z4fb2 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 22:20:43 -0000 Perhaps this is a leftover from the installer (or some version of it anyway), i.e. this might have been happening in the past but likely does not now. fwiw I just exported / over nfs in a vm, /dev is empty On 9/25/20, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Fri, 2020-09-25 at 20:48 +0100, Edward Tomasz Napiera=C5=82a wrote: >> > On 25 Sep 2020, at 19:12, Ian Lepore wrote: >> >> [..] >> >> > (A question that occurs to me: could it be that the files you've >> > seen >> > got created at shutdown after devfs was unmounted, rather than at >> > startup? I don't know enough about the shutdown sequence to know >> > whether that's possible.) >> >> Thing is, if you unmount /dev, you are revoking >> all the device nodes, including your ttys and disk device nodes. You >> wouldn=E2=80=99t be able to properly shutdown afterwards. >> >> > > I was thinking more of something in the shutdown rc scripts or an > errant daemon process unmounting /dev. But it sounds like that's not > possible while disks are still mounted. > > -- Ian > > --=20 Mateusz Guzik