From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 20 21:14:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cx408168-b.escnd1.sdca.home.com (cx408168-b.escnd1.sdca.home.com [24.20.227.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052CB37B422 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 21:14:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lsica1@home.com) Received: (from lomion@localhost) by cx408168-b.escnd1.sdca.home.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4L4I3103448; Sun, 20 May 2001 21:18:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lsica1@home.com) X-Authentication-Warning: cx408168-b.escnd1.sdca.home.com: lomion set sender to lsica1@home.com using -f Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 21:18:03 -0700 From: Larry Sica To: Bzdik BSD Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ports and Packages Mixture Message-ID: <20010520211803.A3416@cx408168-b.escnd1.sdca.home.com> Reply-To: lsica1@home.com References: <15110.20116.161437.414956@guru.mired.org> <20010519212235.60872.qmail@web13604.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010519212235.60872.qmail@web13604.mail.yahoo.com>; from bzdik@yahoo.com on Sat, May 19, 2001 at 02:22:35PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 19 May 2001 at 14:22:35 -0700, Bzdik BSD wrote: > I asked this question before: why not incorporate [something like] apt > from Debian? > > The only answer I got the last time that pkg_add is superior no matter > what. Why does one need to delete both and then to re-install one of > them? Most of you are administrators, wouldn't it save you some > valuable time? Is it a "not made here" thing? This would be a killer: > > apt-get dist-upgrade well you can tell FreeBSD to overwrite ports/pkg's on install. Look in /etc/defaults/make.conf for the exact configuration option. It is turned off by default pkg_add is a vey good tool, all the pkg_ tools work well if you take the time to understand them. pkg_version, pkg_info, pkg_delete are three other parts of the whole. The respective manpages have a wealth of information. > please, enlighten in case I missed some fundamental Constitutional > issue here. don't try "license" song, I said [something like] apt. > last time Debian people raised the issue of possible incorporation > FreeBSD kernel the excuse was the license "conflict", yet the > underlying was the fear of losing control by some "authorities" among > "leadership". Isn't FreeBSD free of this infantile crap? {dream on...} If I recall it had more to do with the fact that the kernel and the userland are tightly bound together. FreeBSD is not Linux. FreeBSD is the whole OS not just a kernel. with sm> --- Mike Meyer wrote: And license is a very big deal. the GPL/LGPL has alot of baggage with what it affects if you choose this license so it is a big factor. > > > Hello. > > > My first priority for installing software is by using packages > > and then > > > the ports collection. If the package dependencies do not have a > > package, > > > I'll download those dependencies using the ports collection. My > > questions > > > are:- > > > 1. Is it safe for me to mix the packages and ports systems? > > > > Yes, so long as you're careful not to install multiple versions of a > > package. > > > > > 2. I have these 2 entries when I do a # pkg_info > > > png-1.0.10 > > > png-1.0.7 > > > Do I need to delete the older png-1.0.7? Will the deletion cause > > other > > > applications to fail? > > > > I'd say yes to the first; others may say no. Definitely yes to the > > second. To delete it safely, delete them both, then reinstall the one > > you want to keep. > > > > > 3. After using the Ports Collection to install software, are the > > software > > > added to the packages system? (i.e. when I do a # pkg_info , will > > the > > > software be shown in this output)? packages are precompile ports basically. I prefer ports since i prefer building from source than installing a binary. Also ports are usually much more current than packages. --Larry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message